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OT: 18 U.S. Code § 2381
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Stormin' Norman
2017-01-05 00:35:45 UTC
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Oren
2017-01-05 00:47:43 UTC
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Self explanatory
18 U.S. Code § 2381
hhhttp://imgur.com/a/dbVBp
You are a shill for imgur. Nothing real about you except trolling
multiple times a day. Climb back under the rock from whence you came.

All you have is hate and discontent. A poor life you have there.
trader_4
2017-01-05 14:55:54 UTC
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Self explanatory
18 U.S. Code § 2381
hhhttp://imgur.com/a/dbVBp
You are a shill for imgur. Nothing real about you except trolling
multiple times a day. Climb back under the rock from whence you came.
All you have is hate and discontent. A poor life you have there.
Of course if Obama or Hillary were in love with Putin, defending
him, saying he's a swell guy, siding with him over 17 US intel
agencies, then what would you say? My the hypocrisy that results
when you're under the Trump spell.
Stormin' Norman
2017-01-05 16:06:11 UTC
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My the hypocrisy that results
when you're under the Trump spell.
Reminds me of an old proverb:

'They are not all saints who use holy water.'
Meanie
2017-01-05 17:39:19 UTC
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Self explanatory
18 U.S. Code § 2381
hhhttp://imgur.com/a/dbVBp
You are a shill for imgur. Nothing real about you except trolling
multiple times a day. Climb back under the rock from whence you came.
All you have is hate and discontent. A poor life you have there.
Of course if Obama or Hillary were in love with Putin, defending
him, saying he's a swell guy, siding with him over 17 US intel
agencies, then what would you say? My the hypocrisy that results
when you're under the Trump spell.
Are you always elated with the imaginative mindset that those who oppose
your view must then be agreeable with what you oppose? You seem to think
you know exactly what everyone thinks because they rebut your and your
boyfriend's comments. You talk about hypocrisy? You both claim you won't
view videos or read stories from sources you refute yet expect others to
view/read yours. You two are sad children who obviously allow Trump and
any Trump voter to get under your skin.
r***@gmail.com
2017-01-05 17:47:42 UTC
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On Thu, 05 Jan 2017 00:35:45 +0000, Stormin' Norman Penis Head Gland
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Self explanatory
18 U.S. Code § 2381
hhhttp://imgur.com/a/dbVBp
You are a shill for imgur. Nothing real about you except trolling
multiple times a day. Climb back under the rock from whence you came.
All you have is hate and discontent. A poor life you have there.
Of course if Obama or Hillary were in love with Putin, defending
him, saying he's a swell guy, siding with him over 17 US intel
agencies, then what would you say? My the hypocrisy that results
when you're under the Trump spell.
Are you always elated with the imaginative mindset that those who oppose
your view must then be agreeable with what you oppose? You seem to think
you know exactly what everyone thinks because they rebut your and your
boyfriend's comments. You talk about hypocrisy? You both claim you won't
view videos or read stories from sources you refute yet expect others to
view/read yours. You two are sad children who obviously allow Trump and
any Trump voter to get under your skin.
All the left wing loons posting here are just sore losers.
trader_4
2017-01-06 15:36:12 UTC
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On Thu, 05 Jan 2017 00:35:45 +0000, Stormin' Norman Penis Head Gland
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Self explanatory
18 U.S. Code § 2381
hhhttp://imgur.com/a/dbVBp
You are a shill for imgur. Nothing real about you except trolling
multiple times a day. Climb back under the rock from whence you came.
All you have is hate and discontent. A poor life you have there.
Of course if Obama or Hillary were in love with Putin, defending
him, saying he's a swell guy, siding with him over 17 US intel
agencies, then what would you say? My the hypocrisy that results
when you're under the Trump spell.
Are you always elated with the imaginative mindset that those who oppose
your view must then be agreeable with what you oppose? You seem to think
you know exactly what everyone thinks because they rebut your and your
boyfriend's comments. You talk about hypocrisy? You both claim you won't
view videos or read stories from sources you refute yet expect others to
view/read yours. You two are sad children who obviously allow Trump and
any Trump voter to get under your skin.
Are you always in denial? If you've watched the vicious attacks levied
here against OBama and the libs by Oren, you'd have no doubt about
what he would be saying if Hillary or Obama was buddying up to Putin.
Do you deny that the right wing has called Putin and Russia a major
threat, an enemy for the last decade? They applauded when Romney said
Russia was the biggest threat we faced and ridiculed Obama for
disagreeing. Now, with Russia behaving far worse than than they
have, Trump says Russia and Putin are cool and Voila!,
the right wingers fall in line. All hail TRump! That is the
difference between you and I. I'm objective, don't change the rules
for a seductive con man.
(PeteCresswell)
2017-01-05 15:42:20 UTC
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18 U.S. Code § 2381
http://imgur.com/a/dbVBp
Cut the guy some slack.

I wouldn't have voted for him on a bet, but he *did* win the election.

Save that stuff for a year or two from now when, I suspect, the
foolishness of voting for him will have become obvious....

And hope that I am wrong....
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Stormin' Norman
2017-01-05 15:57:17 UTC
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18 U.S. Code § 2381
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Cut the guy some slack.
I wouldn't have voted for him on a bet, but he *did* win the election.
Save that stuff for a year or two from now when, I suspect, the
foolishness of voting for him will have become obvious....
And hope that I am wrong....
I appreciate your input, however, we should all be guided by our own
conscience.

The fact that Trump won the election is of absolutely no importance to
me. It simply means that 63 million Americans were gullible and made
a bad choice.

I have no intention of waiting for the first atrocities to occur
before paying attention to my conscience and instincts.

You are welcome to give him the benefit of the doubt if that is what
you wish to do. I, on the other hand, with regard to Trump, have a
very significant balance of doubt and tremendous deficit of benefit.
(PeteCresswell)
2017-01-05 16:22:59 UTC
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The fact that Trump won the election is of absolutely no importance to
me. It simply means that 63 million Americans were gullible and made
a bad choice.
Can't recall where, but I read an article that was somewhat in that vein
a few days ago.

The theme was around the "Don't call me a bigot because I voted for
Trump." that one hears from some of his supporters.

The answer was words to the effect of "Well, actually you *are* a bigot
by virtue of your support for one." An accessory to the crime as it
were.
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Roger Blake
2017-01-05 23:42:30 UTC
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The answer was words to the effect of "Well, actually you *are* a bigot
by virtue of your support for one." An accessory to the crime as it
were.
That's a laugh. Liberals are some of the most bigoted people on the planet.
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(PeteCresswell)
2017-01-06 21:01:48 UTC
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The answer was words to the effect of "Well, actually you *are* a bigot
by virtue of your support for one." An accessory to the crime as it
were.
That's a laugh. Liberals are some of the most bigoted people on the planet.
Maybe so, but that sounds like some sort of classic logical fallacy: "
Because A is true, then "B" must not be true."

Maybe Greater Minds Than Mine can give it a name.
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#NoDAPL
2017-01-06 15:38:33 UTC
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Post by Stormin' Norman
The fact that Trump won the election is of absolutely no importance to
me. It simply means that 63 million Americans were gullible and made
a bad choice.
Can't recall where, but I read an article that was somewhat in that vein
a few days ago.
The theme was around the "Don't call me a bigot because I voted for
Trump." that one hears from some of his supporters.
The answer was words to the effect of "Well, actually you *are* a bigot
by virtue of your support for one." An accessory to the crime as it
were.
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me
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Roger Blake
2017-01-05 23:41:47 UTC
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The fact that Trump won the election is of absolutely no importance to
me. It simply means that 63 million Americans were gullible and made
a bad choice.
It was the people who voted for Hillary that are gullible and made
a bad choice. Fortunately their bad choice did not ensnare the rest
of us.

The really important thing here is not Trump per se, but that the
left-wing agenda has been derailed.
Post by Stormin' Norman
You are welcome to give him the benefit of the doubt if that is what
you wish to do. I, on the other hand, with regard to Trump, have a
very significant balance of doubt and tremendous deficit of benefit.
That is because you are a left-wing fool. Fortunately we are entering
a period of time where it does not matter what left-wingers think. So
go ahead and spew your bile. It matters not a jot. Trump will be
president, the Republicans will be in control, and we will have the
ability to start ripping out liberalism by its ugly roots.
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Oren
2017-01-06 00:27:53 UTC
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On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 23:41:47 -0000 (UTC), Roger Blake
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Post by Stormin' Norman
The fact that Trump won the election is of absolutely no importance to
me. It simply means that 63 million Americans were gullible and made
a bad choice.
It was the people who voted for Hillary that are gullible and made
a bad choice. Fortunately their bad choice did not ensnare the rest
of us.
The really important thing here is not Trump per se, but that the
left-wing agenda has been derailed.
Post by Stormin' Norman
You are welcome to give him the benefit of the doubt if that is what
you wish to do. I, on the other hand, with regard to Trump, have a
very significant balance of doubt and tremendous deficit of benefit.
That is because you are a left-wing fool. Fortunately we are entering
a period of time where it does not matter what left-wingers think. So
go ahead and spew your bile. It matters not a jot. Trump will be
president, the Republicans will be in control, and we will have the
ability to start ripping out liberalism by its ugly roots.
Praise Jesus \m/
Uncle Monster
2017-01-06 06:32:30 UTC
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On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 23:41:47 -0000 (UTC), Roger Blake
Post by Roger Blake
Post by Stormin' Norman
The fact that Trump won the election is of absolutely no importance to
me. It simply means that 63 million Americans were gullible and made
a bad choice.
It was the people who voted for Hillary that are gullible and made
a bad choice. Fortunately their bad choice did not ensnare the rest
of us.
The really important thing here is not Trump per se, but that the
left-wing agenda has been derailed.
Post by Stormin' Norman
You are welcome to give him the benefit of the doubt if that is what
you wish to do. I, on the other hand, with regard to Trump, have a
very significant balance of doubt and tremendous deficit of benefit.
That is because you are a left-wing fool. Fortunately we are entering
a period of time where it does not matter what left-wingers think. So
go ahead and spew your bile. It matters not a jot. Trump will be
president, the Republicans will be in control, and we will have the
ability to start ripping out liberalism by its ugly roots.
Praise Jesus \m/
People who badmouth Trump are racist. They hate Orange people. The Orange race has the same rights as White, Black, Brown, Red and Yellow races of human beings. Mr.Trump is our first Orange President and the racists should STFU and quit spewing their hate. The Oranges are a minority and it's quite an accomplishment for one to attain the level of prosperity and political power that Mr.Trump has amassed. ┌( ಠ_ಠ)┘

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Trumpet
2017-01-06 10:02:52 UTC
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People who badmouth Trump are racist. They hate Orange people. The Orange race has the same rights as White, Black, Brown, Red and Yellow races of human beings. Mr.Trump is our first Orange President and the racists should STFU and quit spewing their hate. The Oranges are a minority and it's quite an accomplishment for one to attain the level of prosperity and political power that Mr.Trump has amassed. ┌( ಠ_ಠ)┘
[8~{} Uncle Honky Monster
Yes sir, the voting taxpayer has spoken! Time for the lazy Obamacrats to get a job or starve.
#NoDAPL
2017-01-06 15:37:06 UTC
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On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 23:41:47 -0000 (UTC), Roger Blake
Post by Roger Blake
Post by Stormin' Norman
The fact that Trump won the election is of absolutely no importance to
me. It simply means that 63 million Americans were gullible and made
a bad choice.
It was the people who voted for Hillary that are gullible and made
a bad choice. Fortunately their bad choice did not ensnare the rest
of us.
The really important thing here is not Trump per se, but that the
left-wing agenda has been derailed.
Post by Stormin' Norman
You are welcome to give him the benefit of the doubt if that is what
you wish to do. I, on the other hand, with regard to Trump, have a
very significant balance of doubt and tremendous deficit of benefit.
That is because you are a left-wing fool. Fortunately we are entering
a period of time where it does not matter what left-wingers think. So
go ahead and spew your bile. It matters not a jot. Trump will be
president, the Republicans will be in control, and we will have the
ability to start ripping out liberalism by its ugly roots.
Praise Jesus \m/
People who badmouth Trump are racist. They hate Orange people. The Orange race has the same rights as White, Black, Brown, Red and Yellow races of human beings. Mr.Trump is our first Orange President and the racists should STFU and quit spewing their hate. The Oranges are a minority and it's quite an accomplishment for one to attain the level of prosperity and political power that Mr.Trump has amassed. ┌( ಠ_ಠ)┘
[8~{} Uncle Honky Monster
Orange lives matter!
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Muggles
2017-01-06 17:04:42 UTC
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On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 23:41:47 -0000 (UTC), Roger Blake
Post by Roger Blake
Post by Stormin' Norman
The fact that Trump won the election is of absolutely no importance to
me. It simply means that 63 million Americans were gullible and made
a bad choice.
It was the people who voted for Hillary that are gullible and made
a bad choice. Fortunately their bad choice did not ensnare the rest
of us.
The really important thing here is not Trump per se, but that the
left-wing agenda has been derailed.
Post by Stormin' Norman
You are welcome to give him the benefit of the doubt if that is what
you wish to do. I, on the other hand, with regard to Trump, have a
very significant balance of doubt and tremendous deficit of benefit.
That is because you are a left-wing fool. Fortunately we are entering
a period of time where it does not matter what left-wingers think. So
go ahead and spew your bile. It matters not a jot. Trump will be
president, the Republicans will be in control, and we will have the
ability to start ripping out liberalism by its ugly roots.
Praise Jesus \m/
People who badmouth Trump are racist. They hate Orange people. The
Orange race has the same rights as White, Black, Brown, Red and Yellow
races of human beings. Mr.Trump is our first Orange President and the
racists should STFU and quit spewing their hate. The Oranges are a
minority and it's quite an accomplishment for one to attain the level
of prosperity and political power that Mr.Trump has amassed. ┌( ಠ_ಠ)┘
[8~{} Uncle Honky Monster
Orange lives matter!
whoot whoot! Don't forget beige lives matter, too!
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trader_4
2017-01-06 15:29:20 UTC
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Post by Stormin' Norman
The fact that Trump won the election is of absolutely no importance to
me. It simply means that 63 million Americans were gullible and made
a bad choice.
It was the people who voted for Hillary that are gullible and made
a bad choice. Fortunately their bad choice did not ensnare the rest
of us.
The really important thing here is not Trump per se, but that the
left-wing agenda has been derailed.
Hitler, Mussolini and all the rest similarly were hailed as saviors
because they replaced the failures before them. Me, I'm not just
concerned with what is being replaced, but also with what is replacing
it. Sadly, for the Trumpets, that isn't a consideration.
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Post by Stormin' Norman
You are welcome to give him the benefit of the doubt if that is what
you wish to do. I, on the other hand, with regard to Trump, have a
very significant balance of doubt and tremendous deficit of benefit.
That is because you are a left-wing fool.
If you've seen Stormin's many posts, it's obvious he's not a left
winger. Neither am I. I'm a Reagan conservative. Both of us are
horrified by the daily embarrassment that Trump brings and we
can point out fact by fact why. This is the standard Trumpet
ad hominem deflection, that anyone opposed to Trump must be a
lefty.



Fortunately we are entering
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a period of time where it does not matter what left-wingers think.
I see. So the GOP should just totally disregard the Democrats?
What were you saying when the Democrats did that? And how is the GOP
going to get their agenda through the Senate, with no Democrats?


So
Post by Roger Blake
go ahead and spew your bile. It matters not a jot. Trump will be
president, the Republicans will be in control, and we will have the
ability to start ripping out liberalism by its ugly roots.
You can rip out some, but for most of it, without some Democrats
to support it in the Senate, the GOP can't pass it. The first
test will be Obamacare. The task for the Democrats is easy.
They are just telling the GOP, fine, you have something better,
that is going to cost less, you spell it out in detail, then
we'll take a look at it. So far, it's been 8 years and I have
yet to see the GOP come up with anything that's better and costs
a lot less, like Trump is promising. With the GOP unable to
produce it, the Democrats will just refuse to vote for it, just
like the GOP did with OBamacare. Then Trump and the GOP has
only one choice left. To kill Obamacare, probably only possible
by multiple, separate measures, that will kill it piecemeal
a messy process with unknown consequences. And then they will
have nothing they can pass to replace it, leaving 20 mil uninsured.

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Muggles
2017-01-06 17:04:08 UTC
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Post by Roger Blake
Post by Stormin' Norman
The fact that Trump won the election is of absolutely no importance to
me. It simply means that 63 million Americans were gullible and made
a bad choice.
It was the people who voted for Hillary that are gullible and made
a bad choice. Fortunately their bad choice did not ensnare the rest
of us.
The really important thing here is not Trump per se, but that the
left-wing agenda has been derailed.
Hitler, Mussolini and all the rest similarly were hailed as saviors
because they replaced the failures before them. Me, I'm not just
concerned with what is being replaced, but also with what is replacing
it. Sadly, for the Trumpets, that isn't a consideration.
Post by Roger Blake
Post by Stormin' Norman
You are welcome to give him the benefit of the doubt if that is what
you wish to do. I, on the other hand, with regard to Trump, have a
very significant balance of doubt and tremendous deficit of benefit.
That is because you are a left-wing fool.
If you've seen Stormin's many posts, it's obvious he's not a left
winger. Neither am I. I'm a Reagan conservative. Both of us are
horrified by the daily embarrassment that Trump brings and we
can point out fact by fact why. This is the standard Trumpet
ad hominem deflection, that anyone opposed to Trump must be a
lefty.
Liar liar pants on fire! I'm a Reagan conservative! You're nothing even
close to being a conservative!
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burfordTjustice
2017-01-06 17:21:56 UTC
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I'm a Reagan conservative.
That is pure Bullshit.
(PeteCresswell)
2017-01-06 21:11:30 UTC
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I'm a Reagan conservative.
Can somebody list a few defining characteristics of a "Reagan
Conservative"?
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trader_4
2017-01-06 21:33:51 UTC
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I'm a Reagan conservative.
Can somebody list a few defining characteristics of a "Reagan
Conservative"?
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Less federal govt
Less regulation, where possible
More power to states and local govt to deal with issues instead of the feds
Lower taxes, don't take money from states then make them beg to get it back
Balanced budget amendment
No political correct BS
Stand up for law enforcement officers
Enforce the laws of the land
Stand up to our foreign enemies
Stand up for freedom around the world
Stand behind what you say

That would be my list.

trader_4
2017-01-06 17:32:37 UTC
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Post by Roger Blake
Post by Stormin' Norman
The fact that Trump won the election is of absolutely no importance to
me. It simply means that 63 million Americans were gullible and made
a bad choice.
It was the people who voted for Hillary that are gullible and made
a bad choice. Fortunately their bad choice did not ensnare the rest
of us.
The really important thing here is not Trump per se, but that the
left-wing agenda has been derailed.
Hitler, Mussolini and all the rest similarly were hailed as saviors
because they replaced the failures before them. Me, I'm not just
concerned with what is being replaced, but also with what is replacing
it. Sadly, for the Trumpets, that isn't a consideration.
Post by Roger Blake
Post by Stormin' Norman
You are welcome to give him the benefit of the doubt if that is what
you wish to do. I, on the other hand, with regard to Trump, have a
very significant balance of doubt and tremendous deficit of benefit.
That is because you are a left-wing fool.
If you've seen Stormin's many posts, it's obvious he's not a left
winger. Neither am I. I'm a Reagan conservative. Both of us are
horrified by the daily embarrassment that Trump brings and we
can point out fact by fact why. This is the standard Trumpet
ad hominem deflection, that anyone opposed to Trump must be a
lefty.
Liar liar pants on fire! I'm a Reagan conservative! You're nothing even
close to being a conservative!
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Maggie
Cite for us the core positions that show I'm not a conservative.
And note that being opposed to Trump isn't an answer, though obviously
Trumpets think it is.

I can cite for you why you're not a conservative:

1 - You immediately blame the police in any shooting of a black,
refuse to even wait for the full facts to come out. How did that
work with Michael Brown? The deaf black guy? Baltimore? You
immediately portray some jerk that's out of control, resisting
arrest, as just a poor victim.
What conservative does that?

2 - You ignore all the things Trump has done that are totally opposite
conservative principles and what we stand for.

2a - Since WWII, conservatives have viewed Russia as an enemy,
except for a brief period in the 90s. Most recently conservatives
have all stood together against Russia for what they did in Crimea,
Ukraine, MH17, Syria, Putin and his mob thugs stealing the wealth
of the country. But one fine day, Trump says Putin is swell, his buddy,
and it's all hail Trump and now Putin is cool.

2b - Trump is advocating protectionist trade strategies, tariffs,
since when is that a conservative principle?


2c - Trump believes there is one set of rules for himself, one for
everyone else. He bullies Carrier, GM, Ford over their foreign
business interests, threatens them, yet he himself freely imports
Chinese goods to sell and does billion dollar development deals overseas,
creating jobs there instead of America. That's using big govt to
bully business, while doing what you pleas yourself. That is
conservative principle?

2d - Trump disparages all US intel agencies, without even receiving
his briefings. Without even seeing what US intel has, Trump sides
with Putin and Assange. Has Trump been to CIA to see the stars on
the wall? This is conservatism?

2e - Trump says he's against pay to play, will "drain the swamp".
Before even taking office, Taiwan pays Bob Dole $140K to lobby
Trump. Trump speaks with Dole, then takes the phone call from
Taiwan, starts to change US foreign policy. That's what a
conservative would do? That's what REagan would do?

Then there are all the betrayals, eg Trump promised to deport
11 mil illegals, round up the bunch of rapists, get them all
out in just a year or two. Now, having fooled you into voting
for him, well, now they are "good people" who we have to be
"fair to", there will be no deportation for most of them.
That's a conservative?

There are plenty of other examples. Now show us why I'm not a
conservative.
(PeteCresswell)
2017-01-06 21:10:22 UTC
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Hitler, Mussolini and all the rest similarly were hailed as saviors
because they replaced the failures before them. Me, I'm not just
concerned with what is being replaced, but also with what is replacing
it. Sadly, for the Trumpets, that isn't a consideration.
I just watched Ian Bremmer on Charlie Rose the other night.

Bremmer runs a big time consulting firm that specializes in global risk
analysis.

He says that the Trump presidency *could* fail (he didn't opine that it
*would*... just that it *could*) for 3 reasons:

- Incompetence

- Corruption

- Authoritarianism


He said that the first two don't bother him: the system can deal with
both incompetence and corruption in the POTUS.

The one that bothered him was the possibility that Trump *may* have an
authoritarian personality: one whose primary driver is acquisition of
power and more power.

More specifically, he would be worried if there were some sort of attack
on the USA's home turf - which would open up the gates for all sorts of
presidential authority (like happened after 911 with the "Patriot" act
and various presidential directives like torturing prisoners and
so-forth) that Trump would use that go consolidate more non-democratic
power.

He repeated over-and-over that it is too early to actually *know*
anything.

I guess time will tell.

Geeze!.... I thought the entertainment was going to cease once the
election happened.... Seems like The Donald is going to be "The gift
that keeps on giving....".
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Pete Cresswell
Vic Smith
2017-01-05 17:14:18 UTC
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Post by Stormin' Norman
18 U.S. Code § 2381
http://imgur.com/a/dbVBp
Cut the guy some slack.
I wouldn't have voted for him on a bet, but he *did* win the election.
Save that stuff for a year or two from now when, I suspect, the
foolishness of voting for him will have become obvious....
And hope that I am wrong....
Trump is a clown. He fully deserves to be ridiculed.
He won't last a year unless he learns to shut his clown mouth.
That's doubtful.
I applaud Norman and Trader for the ridicule they heap upon him.
To those who don't like it, just go ahead and post your own opinions.
Freedom of speech.
(PeteCresswell)
2017-01-05 18:30:36 UTC
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He won't last a year unless he learns to shut his clown mouth.
That's doubtful.
That's the scary part to me: I keep hearing informed people opining
that, as soon as it becomes convenient, the RNC will figure out a way to
impeach Trump, making Pence POTUS.

Pence comes across to me as a sick puppy.... and his superior
political/interpersonal skills make him more formidable than Trump.
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Pete Cresswell
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