Post by rbowman Post by Unquestionably Confused Post by rbowman Post by Unquestionably Confused
In Illinois, he'd probably be in trouble for the pellet gun (if caliber
Post by Ed Pawlowski
.177) or the taser. The knife? That 9" is overall length so the
blade is likely a shade over 4". Most all of my pocket knives
are 3½' - 4" blades. I challenge anyone to find a S&W knife
with a blade that is 9"
My Spyderco Police is 9 1/2". Guess I better stay out of
Illinois. No problem.
There probably would NOT be a problem with the knife in Illinois.
And, as I stated, the dimension given for the kid's knife was
OVERALL, not blade length as the paper would have us believe. Just
as your Spyderco is 9 7/16ths" OVERALL with a 4 1/8" blade that has
a 3 13/16th" cutting edge.
WTF? Even a full-size USMC K-Bar fighting knife only has a 7" blade!
I've got a fixed blade Randall with a 6" blade. Despite Crocodile
Dundee there is a limit to useful length other than playing mine is
bigger than yours.
As I read that in Illinois any blade 3" or longer are per se weapons.
That would include the Opinel No. 8 I use for a letter opener. I
probably have something under 3" around here someplace. Maybe.
What can I say? Illinois is Illinois. It's unfriendly to knife owners,
gun owners, to . . . Waitaminute, it's unfriendly to everyone and
That said, I have to say that in over 50 years of involvement with the
courts (law enforcement and other) I can't recall ever seeing a charge
placed based upon a per se knife (i.e. blade >3").
Knife charges? Sure, but it's always been a common sense (rarity, I
know) charge where the police placed the charge based upon its use as a
deadly weapon. Obviously, before they were recently legalized,
automatics and switchblades, which fell into the per se category were
considered contraband and possession would wind up getting you charged
FWIW, even in Illinois it's pretty much "don't do something stupid with
your knife and you won't have a problem"; act the idiot and you can
expect to be made an example of.
The only knife I own/carry with a blade <3" is a little sterling silver
Swiss Army Gent's Pocket knife. I always joke with the security guys at
the courthouse about it. If I had that knife in my pocket and my Cross
mechanical pencil in my shirt pocket, guess which one I'd use to take
somebody out? I sure as hell wouldn't bother getting blood on the Swiss
Army gent's knife.