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micky
2024-12-29 23:07:59 UTC
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I just got a new acurite wireless indoor-outdoor thermometer, from
Amazon. I really like it and its design.

Can you suggest some place where I can calibrate its temperature? A
public or semi public place where I can find out what temperature it is
there . I thought my home was set for 68° but maybe it's 70 , but the
temperature that the thermometer shows is 75° .When I first got it I
think it showed 70 and went up to 71 . I can't believe Even that .
Although I spend a lot of time in this room and I exhale and I have a
heater on until a couple days ago that would have put it up to 75 but
how come it hasn't cooled off yet. And even if there was nothing
unusual, I would still want to calibrate it

Anyhow can you suggest the kind of building where I would be able to see
what the temperature is there accurately ?
Bob F
2024-12-29 23:38:19 UTC
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Post by micky
I just got a new acurite wireless indoor-outdoor thermometer, from
Amazon. I really like it and its design.
Can you suggest some place where I can calibrate its temperature? A
public or semi public place where I can find out what temperature it is
there . I thought my home was set for 68° but maybe it's 70 , but the
temperature that the thermometer shows is 75° .When I first got it I
think it showed 70 and went up to 71 . I can't believe Even that .
Although I spend a lot of time in this room and I exhale and I have a
heater on until a couple days ago that would have put it up to 75 but
how come it hasn't cooled off yet. And even if there was nothing
unusual, I would still want to calibrate it
Anyhow can you suggest the kind of building where I would be able to see
what the temperature is there accurately ?
I just gathered every thermometer I could find and put then near the one
I want to verify. The three that read within 1 degree of each other were
my reference
micky
2024-12-30 00:07:53 UTC
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In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 29 Dec 2024 15:38:19 -0800, Bob F
Post by Bob F
Post by micky
I just got a new acurite wireless indoor-outdoor thermometer, from
Amazon. I really like it and its design.
Can you suggest some place where I can calibrate its temperature? A
public or semi public place where I can find out what temperature it is
there . I thought my home was set for 68° but maybe it's 70 , but the
temperature that the thermometer shows is 75° .When I first got it I
think it showed 70 and went up to 71 . I can't believe Even that .
Although I spend a lot of time in this room and I exhale and I have a
heater on until a couple days ago that would have put it up to 75 but
how come it hasn't cooled off yet. And even if there was nothing
unusual, I would still want to calibrate it
Anyhow can you suggest the kind of building where I would be able to see
what the temperature is there accurately ?
I just gathered every thermometer I could find and put then near the one
I want to verify. The three that read within 1 degree of each other were
my reference
I have others, but they are buried under papers etc. I have no idea
wher they are.
h***@ccanoemail.com
2024-12-30 10:21:29 UTC
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In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 29 Dec 2024 15:38:19 -0800, Bob F
Post by Bob F
Post by micky
I just got a new acurite wireless indoor-outdoor thermometer, from
Amazon. I really like it and its design.
Can you suggest some place where I can calibrate its temperature? A
public or semi public place where I can find out what temperature it is
there . I thought my home was set for 68° but maybe it's 70 , but the
temperature that the thermometer shows is 75° .When I first got it I
think it showed 70 and went up to 71 . I can't believe Even that .
Although I spend a lot of time in this room and I exhale and I have a
heater on until a couple days ago that would have put it up to 75 but
how come it hasn't cooled off yet. And even if there was nothing
unusual, I would still want to calibrate it
Anyhow can you suggest the kind of building where I would be able to see
what the temperature is there accurately ?
I just gathered every thermometer I could find and put then near the one
I want to verify. The three that read within 1 degree of each other were
my reference
I have others, but they are buried under papers etc. I have no idea
wher they are.
Did you look up in the attic ? :-)
John T.
Carlos E.R.
2024-12-30 01:41:08 UTC
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Post by micky
I just got a new acurite wireless indoor-outdoor thermometer, from
Amazon. I really like it and its design.
Can you suggest some place where I can calibrate its temperature? A
public or semi public place where I can find out what temperature it is
there . I thought my home was set for 68° but maybe it's 70 , but the
temperature that the thermometer shows is 75° .When I first got it I
think it showed 70 and went up to 71 . I can't believe Even that .
Although I spend a lot of time in this room and I exhale and I have a
heater on until a couple days ago that would have put it up to 75 but
how come it hasn't cooled off yet. And even if there was nothing
unusual, I would still want to calibrate it
There is no way to calibrate an electronic thermometer that you buy.
They are not adjustable, except on factory, some models.

You can buy a bunch, put them in the centre of a closed box, and put the
box in a table of a closed room, with no heating or cooling. They should
all be a decimal from one another, after a while.
Post by micky
Anyhow can you suggest the kind of building where I would be able to see
what the temperature is there accurately ?
--
Cheers, Carlos.
Clare Snyder
2024-12-30 02:06:46 UTC
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On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 02:41:08 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by micky
I just got a new acurite wireless indoor-outdoor thermometer, from
Amazon. I really like it and its design.
Can you suggest some place where I can calibrate its temperature? A
public or semi public place where I can find out what temperature it is
there . I thought my home was set for 68° but maybe it's 70 , but the
temperature that the thermometer shows is 75° .When I first got it I
think it showed 70 and went up to 71 . I can't believe Even that .
Although I spend a lot of time in this room and I exhale and I have a
heater on until a couple days ago that would have put it up to 75 but
how come it hasn't cooled off yet. And even if there was nothing
unusual, I would still want to calibrate it
There is no way to calibrate an electronic thermometer that you buy.
They are not adjustable, except on factory, some models.
You can buy a bunch, put them in the centre of a closed box, and put the
box in a table of a closed room, with no heating or cooling. They should
all be a decimal from one another, after a while.
Post by micky
Anyhow can you suggest the kind of building where I would be able to see
what the temperature is there accurately ?
You have 2 calibration points. The boiling point and freezing point
of pure water at sea level (corrected)
VERY simple to CHECK calibration
Carlos E.R.
2024-12-30 15:46:53 UTC
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On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 02:41:08 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by micky
I just got a new acurite wireless indoor-outdoor thermometer, from
Amazon. I really like it and its design.
Can you suggest some place where I can calibrate its temperature? A
public or semi public place where I can find out what temperature it is
there . I thought my home was set for 68° but maybe it's 70 , but the
temperature that the thermometer shows is 75° .When I first got it I
think it showed 70 and went up to 71 . I can't believe Even that .
Although I spend a lot of time in this room and I exhale and I have a
heater on until a couple days ago that would have put it up to 75 but
how come it hasn't cooled off yet. And even if there was nothing
unusual, I would still want to calibrate it
There is no way to calibrate an electronic thermometer that you buy.
They are not adjustable, except on factory, some models.
You can buy a bunch, put them in the centre of a closed box, and put the
box in a table of a closed room, with no heating or cooling. They should
all be a decimal from one another, after a while.
Post by micky
Anyhow can you suggest the kind of building where I would be able to see
what the temperature is there accurately ?
You have 2 calibration points. The boiling point and freezing point
of pure water at sea level (corrected)
VERY simple to CHECK calibration
That's the theory. In practice, it is not that easy.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
Clare Snyder
2024-12-30 19:55:16 UTC
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On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:46:53 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by Clare Snyder
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 02:41:08 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by micky
I just got a new acurite wireless indoor-outdoor thermometer, from
Amazon. I really like it and its design.
Can you suggest some place where I can calibrate its temperature? A
public or semi public place where I can find out what temperature it is
there . I thought my home was set for 68° but maybe it's 70 , but the
temperature that the thermometer shows is 75° .When I first got it I
think it showed 70 and went up to 71 . I can't believe Even that .
Although I spend a lot of time in this room and I exhale and I have a
heater on until a couple days ago that would have put it up to 75 but
how come it hasn't cooled off yet. And even if there was nothing
unusual, I would still want to calibrate it
There is no way to calibrate an electronic thermometer that you buy.
They are not adjustable, except on factory, some models.
You can buy a bunch, put them in the centre of a closed box, and put the
box in a table of a closed room, with no heating or cooling. They should
all be a decimal from one another, after a while.
Post by micky
Anyhow can you suggest the kind of building where I would be able to see
what the temperature is there accurately ?
You have 2 calibration points. The boiling point and freezing point
of pure water at sea level (corrected)
VERY simple to CHECK calibration
That's the theory. In practice, it is not that easy.
How not????
Carlos E.R.
2024-12-30 22:42:08 UTC
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On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:46:53 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by Clare Snyder
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 02:41:08 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by micky
I just got a new acurite wireless indoor-outdoor thermometer, from
Amazon. I really like it and its design.
Can you suggest some place where I can calibrate its temperature? A
public or semi public place where I can find out what temperature it is
there . I thought my home was set for 68° but maybe it's 70 , but the
temperature that the thermometer shows is 75° .When I first got it I
think it showed 70 and went up to 71 . I can't believe Even that .
Although I spend a lot of time in this room and I exhale and I have a
heater on until a couple days ago that would have put it up to 75 but
how come it hasn't cooled off yet. And even if there was nothing
unusual, I would still want to calibrate it
There is no way to calibrate an electronic thermometer that you buy.
They are not adjustable, except on factory, some models.
You can buy a bunch, put them in the centre of a closed box, and put the
box in a table of a closed room, with no heating or cooling. They should
all be a decimal from one another, after a while.
Post by micky
Anyhow can you suggest the kind of building where I would be able to see
what the temperature is there accurately ?
You have 2 calibration points. The boiling point and freezing point
of pure water at sea level (corrected)
VERY simple to CHECK calibration
That's the theory. In practice, it is not that easy.
How not????
Well, there can not be anything disolved in the water. It has to be
distilled water. And it has to be sea level, and the appropriate
latitude, so that the air pressure is exactly nominal. Then the
conditions of the experiment have to be perfect.

We tried once.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
Clare Snyder
2024-12-31 05:14:49 UTC
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Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by Clare Snyder
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:46:53 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by Clare Snyder
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 02:41:08 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by micky
I just got a new acurite wireless indoor-outdoor thermometer, from
Amazon. I really like it and its design.
Can you suggest some place where I can calibrate its temperature? A
public or semi public place where I can find out what temperature it is
there . I thought my home was set for 68° but maybe it's 70 , but the
temperature that the thermometer shows is 75° .When I first got it I
think it showed 70 and went up to 71 . I can't believe Even that .
Although I spend a lot of time in this room and I exhale and I have a
heater on until a couple days ago that would have put it up to 75 but
how come it hasn't cooled off yet. And even if there was nothing
unusual, I would still want to calibrate it
There is no way to calibrate an electronic thermometer that you buy.
They are not adjustable, except on factory, some models.
You can buy a bunch, put them in the centre of a closed box, and put the
box in a table of a closed room, with no heating or cooling. They should
all be a decimal from one another, after a while.
Post by micky
Anyhow can you suggest the kind of building where I would be able to see
what the temperature is there accurately ?
You have 2 calibration points. The boiling point and freezing point
of pure water at sea level (corrected)
VERY simple to CHECK calibration
That's the theory. In practice, it is not that easy.
How not????
Well, there can not be anything disolved in the water. It has to be
distilled water. And it has to be sea level, and the appropriate
latitude, so that the air pressure is exactly nominal. Then the
conditions of the experiment have to be perfect.
We tried once.
What do you not understand about "pure water" Distilled water is
available virually everywhere. ALso what do you not understand about
"corrected" One degree lower boiling point per 500 ft above sea level
gets you VERY CLOSE.

For every 3.6Kpa pressure change the boiling point changes 1 degree
C. - or for the 'mericans out there, for every inch of mercury change,
the boiling point changes 1.7 degrees F.

You correct to "standard atmosphere" - either by altitude or
atmospheric pressure - NOT BOTH because it is the change in
atmospheric pressure at altitude (air density) that effects the
boiling point - and we are NOT trying to calibrate to 1/10 degree -
either C or F.

Using the Zero C or 32F freezing point to calibrate is totally
unaffected by altitude or atmospheric pressure - just use PURE
(distilled or de-ionized or RO) water.

NO rocket science involved.
Carlos E.R.
2024-12-31 14:35:09 UTC
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Post by Clare Snyder
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 23:42:08 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by Clare Snyder
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:46:53 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by Clare Snyder
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 02:41:08 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by micky
I just got a new acurite wireless indoor-outdoor thermometer, from
Amazon. I really like it and its design.
Can you suggest some place where I can calibrate its temperature? A
public or semi public place where I can find out what temperature it is
there . I thought my home was set for 68° but maybe it's 70 , but the
temperature that the thermometer shows is 75° .When I first got it I
think it showed 70 and went up to 71 . I can't believe Even that .
Although I spend a lot of time in this room and I exhale and I have a
heater on until a couple days ago that would have put it up to 75 but
how come it hasn't cooled off yet. And even if there was nothing
unusual, I would still want to calibrate it
There is no way to calibrate an electronic thermometer that you buy.
They are not adjustable, except on factory, some models.
You can buy a bunch, put them in the centre of a closed box, and put the
box in a table of a closed room, with no heating or cooling. They should
all be a decimal from one another, after a while.
Post by micky
Anyhow can you suggest the kind of building where I would be able to see
what the temperature is there accurately ?
You have 2 calibration points. The boiling point and freezing point
of pure water at sea level (corrected)
VERY simple to CHECK calibration
That's the theory. In practice, it is not that easy.
How not????
Well, there can not be anything disolved in the water. It has to be
distilled water. And it has to be sea level, and the appropriate
latitude, so that the air pressure is exactly nominal. Then the
conditions of the experiment have to be perfect.
We tried once.
What do you not understand about "pure water" Distilled water is
available virually everywhere.
Pure water to me is what flows from the depth of the earth, pristine.
Not distilled.
Post by Clare Snyder
ALso what do you not understand about
"corrected" One degree lower boiling point per 500 ft above sea level
gets you VERY CLOSE.
For every 3.6Kpa pressure change the boiling point changes 1 degree
C. - or for the 'mericans out there, for every inch of mercury change,
the boiling point changes 1.7 degrees F.
You correct to "standard atmosphere" - either by altitude or
atmospheric pressure - NOT BOTH because it is the change in
atmospheric pressure at altitude (air density) that effects the
boiling point - and we are NOT trying to calibrate to 1/10 degree -
either C or F.
Using the Zero C or 32F freezing point to calibrate is totally
unaffected by altitude or atmospheric pressure - just use PURE
(distilled or de-ionized or RO) water.
NO rocket science involved.
We did the experiment in high school. It was off by more than one degree.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
Clare Snyder
2024-12-31 17:46:10 UTC
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Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by Clare Snyder
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 23:42:08 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by Clare Snyder
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:46:53 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by Clare Snyder
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 02:41:08 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by micky
I just got a new acurite wireless indoor-outdoor thermometer, from
Amazon. I really like it and its design.
Can you suggest some place where I can calibrate its temperature? A
public or semi public place where I can find out what temperature it is
there . I thought my home was set for 68° but maybe it's 70 , but the
temperature that the thermometer shows is 75° .When I first got it I
think it showed 70 and went up to 71 . I can't believe Even that .
Although I spend a lot of time in this room and I exhale and I have a
heater on until a couple days ago that would have put it up to 75 but
how come it hasn't cooled off yet. And even if there was nothing
unusual, I would still want to calibrate it
There is no way to calibrate an electronic thermometer that you buy.
They are not adjustable, except on factory, some models.
You can buy a bunch, put them in the centre of a closed box, and put the
box in a table of a closed room, with no heating or cooling. They should
all be a decimal from one another, after a while.
Post by micky
Anyhow can you suggest the kind of building where I would be able to see
what the temperature is there accurately ?
You have 2 calibration points. The boiling point and freezing point
of pure water at sea level (corrected)
VERY simple to CHECK calibration
That's the theory. In practice, it is not that easy.
How not????
Well, there can not be anything disolved in the water. It has to be
distilled water. And it has to be sea level, and the appropriate
latitude, so that the air pressure is exactly nominal. Then the
conditions of the experiment have to be perfect.
We tried once.
What do you not understand about "pure water" Distilled water is
available virually everywhere.
Pure water to me is what flows from the depth of the earth, pristine.
Not distilled.
ll you are WRONG. Well water can have (and usually DOES have quite a
high TDS (total disolved solids). Lots of calcium, Magnesium, iron,
etc. RAIN water is much closer to pure because it IS distilled.
Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by Clare Snyder
ALso what do you not understand about
"corrected" One degree lower boiling point per 500 ft above sea level
gets you VERY CLOSE.
For every 3.6Kpa pressure change the boiling point changes 1 degree
C. - or for the 'mericans out there, for every inch of mercury change,
the boiling point changes 1.7 degrees F.
You correct to "standard atmosphere" - either by altitude or
atmospheric pressure - NOT BOTH because it is the change in
atmospheric pressure at altitude (air density) that effects the
boiling point - and we are NOT trying to calibrate to 1/10 degree -
either C or F.
Using the Zero C or 32F freezing point to calibrate is totally
unaffected by altitude or atmospheric pressure - just use PURE
(distilled or de-ionized or RO) water.
NO rocket science involved.
We did the experiment in high school. It was off by more than one degree.
Not unlikely if using tap water and not correcting for atmospheric
pressure.

Doesn't mean it's difficult (I was a high school teacher once)
Carlos E.R.
2024-12-31 19:39:51 UTC
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On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 15:35:09 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by Clare Snyder
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 23:42:08 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by Clare Snyder
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:46:53 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by Clare Snyder
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 02:41:08 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by micky
I just got a new acurite wireless indoor-outdoor thermometer, from
Amazon. I really like it and its design.
Can you suggest some place where I can calibrate its temperature? A
public or semi public place where I can find out what temperature it is
there . I thought my home was set for 68° but maybe it's 70 , but the
temperature that the thermometer shows is 75° .When I first got it I
think it showed 70 and went up to 71 . I can't believe Even that .
Although I spend a lot of time in this room and I exhale and I have a
heater on until a couple days ago that would have put it up to 75 but
how come it hasn't cooled off yet. And even if there was nothing
unusual, I would still want to calibrate it
There is no way to calibrate an electronic thermometer that you buy.
They are not adjustable, except on factory, some models.
You can buy a bunch, put them in the centre of a closed box, and put the
box in a table of a closed room, with no heating or cooling. They should
all be a decimal from one another, after a while.
Post by micky
Anyhow can you suggest the kind of building where I would be able to see
what the temperature is there accurately ?
You have 2 calibration points. The boiling point and freezing point
of pure water at sea level (corrected)
VERY simple to CHECK calibration
That's the theory. In practice, it is not that easy.
How not????
Well, there can not be anything disolved in the water. It has to be
distilled water. And it has to be sea level, and the appropriate
latitude, so that the air pressure is exactly nominal. Then the
conditions of the experiment have to be perfect.
We tried once.
What do you not understand about "pure water" Distilled water is
available virually everywhere.
Pure water to me is what flows from the depth of the earth, pristine.
Not distilled.
ll you are WRONG. Well water can have (and usually DOES have quite a
high TDS (total disolved solids). Lots of calcium, Magnesium, iron,
etc. RAIN water is much closer to pure because it IS distilled.
That's exactly what I am saying. The experiment has to be done with
distilled water, not so called "pure water".
Post by Clare Snyder
Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by Clare Snyder
ALso what do you not understand about
"corrected" One degree lower boiling point per 500 ft above sea level
gets you VERY CLOSE.
For every 3.6Kpa pressure change the boiling point changes 1 degree
C. - or for the 'mericans out there, for every inch of mercury change,
the boiling point changes 1.7 degrees F.
You correct to "standard atmosphere" - either by altitude or
atmospheric pressure - NOT BOTH because it is the change in
atmospheric pressure at altitude (air density) that effects the
boiling point - and we are NOT trying to calibrate to 1/10 degree -
either C or F.
Using the Zero C or 32F freezing point to calibrate is totally
unaffected by altitude or atmospheric pressure - just use PURE
(distilled or de-ionized or RO) water.
NO rocket science involved.
We did the experiment in high school. It was off by more than one degree.
Not unlikely if using tap water and not correcting for atmospheric
pressure.
Doesn't mean it's difficult (I was a high school teacher once)
--
Cheers, Carlos.
Clare Snyder
2024-12-31 22:02:09 UTC
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Post by Clare Snyder
On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 15:35:09 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by Clare Snyder
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 23:42:08 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by Clare Snyder
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:46:53 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by Clare Snyder
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 02:41:08 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by micky
I just got a new acurite wireless indoor-outdoor thermometer, from
Amazon. I really like it and its design.
Can you suggest some place where I can calibrate its temperature? A
public or semi public place where I can find out what temperature it is
there . I thought my home was set for 68° but maybe it's 70 , but the
temperature that the thermometer shows is 75° .When I first got it I
think it showed 70 and went up to 71 . I can't believe Even that .
Although I spend a lot of time in this room and I exhale and I have a
heater on until a couple days ago that would have put it up to 75 but
how come it hasn't cooled off yet. And even if there was nothing
unusual, I would still want to calibrate it
There is no way to calibrate an electronic thermometer that you buy.
They are not adjustable, except on factory, some models.
You can buy a bunch, put them in the centre of a closed box, and put the
box in a table of a closed room, with no heating or cooling. They should
all be a decimal from one another, after a while.
Post by micky
Anyhow can you suggest the kind of building where I would be able to see
what the temperature is there accurately ?
You have 2 calibration points. The boiling point and freezing point
of pure water at sea level (corrected)
VERY simple to CHECK calibration
That's the theory. In practice, it is not that easy.
How not????
Well, there can not be anything disolved in the water. It has to be
distilled water. And it has to be sea level, and the appropriate
latitude, so that the air pressure is exactly nominal. Then the
conditions of the experiment have to be perfect.
We tried once.
What do you not understand about "pure water" Distilled water is
available virually everywhere.
Pure water to me is what flows from the depth of the earth, pristine.
Not distilled.
ll you are WRONG. Well water can have (and usually DOES have quite a
high TDS (total disolved solids). Lots of calcium, Magnesium, iron,
etc. RAIN water is much closer to pure because it IS distilled.
That's exactly what I am saying. The experiment has to be done with
distilled water, not so called "pure water".
Damn some people are stupid!!!!
Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by Clare Snyder
Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by Clare Snyder
ALso what do you not understand about
"corrected" One degree lower boiling point per 500 ft above sea level
gets you VERY CLOSE.
For every 3.6Kpa pressure change the boiling point changes 1 degree
C. - or for the 'mericans out there, for every inch of mercury change,
the boiling point changes 1.7 degrees F.
You correct to "standard atmosphere" - either by altitude or
atmospheric pressure - NOT BOTH because it is the change in
atmospheric pressure at altitude (air density) that effects the
boiling point - and we are NOT trying to calibrate to 1/10 degree -
either C or F.
Using the Zero C or 32F freezing point to calibrate is totally
unaffected by altitude or atmospheric pressure - just use PURE
(distilled or de-ionized or RO) water.
NO rocket science involved.
We did the experiment in high school. It was off by more than one degree.
Not unlikely if using tap water and not correcting for atmospheric
pressure.
Doesn't mean it's difficult (I was a high school teacher once)
Carlos E.R.
2024-12-31 23:24:43 UTC
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Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by micky
I just got a new acurite wireless indoor-outdoor thermometer, from
Amazon. I really like it and its design.
Can you suggest some place where I can calibrate its temperature? A
public or semi public place where I can find out what temperature it is
there . I thought my home was set for 68° but maybe it's 70 , but the
temperature that the thermometer shows is 75° .When I first got it I
think it showed 70 and went up to 71 . I can't believe Even that .
Although I spend a lot of time in this room and I exhale and I have a
heater on until a couple days ago that would have put it up to 75 but
how come it hasn't cooled off yet. And even if there was nothing
unusual, I would still want to calibrate it
There is no way to calibrate an electronic thermometer that you buy.
They are not adjustable, except on factory, some models.
You can buy a bunch, put them in the centre of a closed box, and put the
box in a table of a closed room, with no heating or cooling. They should
all be a decimal from one another, after a while.
Post by micky
Anyhow can you suggest the kind of building where I would be able to see
what the temperature is there accurately ?
You have 2 calibration points. The boiling point and freezing point
of pure water at sea level (corrected)
VERY simple to CHECK calibration
That's the theory. In practice, it is not that easy.
How not????
Well, there can not be anything disolved in the water. It has to be
distilled water. And it has to be sea level, and the appropriate
latitude, so that the air pressure is exactly nominal. Then the
conditions of the experiment have to be perfect.
We tried once.
What do you not understand about "pure water" Distilled water is
available virually everywhere.
Pure water to me is what flows from the depth of the earth, pristine.
Not distilled.
ll you are WRONG. Well water can have (and usually DOES have quite a
high TDS (total disolved solids). Lots of calcium, Magnesium, iron,
etc. RAIN water is much closer to pure because it IS distilled.
That's exactly what I am saying. The experiment has to be done with
distilled water, not so called "pure water".
Damn some people are stupid!!!!
Certainly.
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ALso what do you not understand about
"corrected" One degree lower boiling point per 500 ft above sea level
gets you VERY CLOSE.
For every 3.6Kpa pressure change the boiling point changes 1 degree
C. - or for the 'mericans out there, for every inch of mercury change,
the boiling point changes 1.7 degrees F.
You correct to "standard atmosphere" - either by altitude or
atmospheric pressure - NOT BOTH because it is the change in
atmospheric pressure at altitude (air density) that effects the
boiling point - and we are NOT trying to calibrate to 1/10 degree -
either C or F.
Using the Zero C or 32F freezing point to calibrate is totally
unaffected by altitude or atmospheric pressure - just use PURE
(distilled or de-ionized or RO) water.
NO rocket science involved.
We did the experiment in high school. It was off by more than one degree.
Not unlikely if using tap water and not correcting for atmospheric
pressure.
Doesn't mean it's difficult (I was a high school teacher once)
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Cheers, Carlos.
Cindy Hamilton
2024-12-31 19:38:16 UTC
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Pure water to me is what flows from the depth of the earth, pristine.
Not distilled.
Not pristine. Filled with minerals that affect the boiling/freezing
point.
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Carlos E.R.
2024-12-31 20:22:39 UTC
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Pure water to me is what flows from the depth of the earth, pristine.
Not distilled.
Not pristine. Filled with minerals that affect the boiling/freezing
point.
Exactly.
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Cheers, Carlos.
Rusty
2024-12-30 13:38:27 UTC
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Post by micky
I just got a new acurite wireless indoor-outdoor thermometer, from
Amazon.  I really like it and its design.
Can you suggest some place where I can calibrate its temperature?  A
public or semi public place where I can find out what temperature it is
there . I thought my home was set for 68° but maybe it's 70 , but the
temperature that the thermometer shows is 75° .When I first got it I
think it showed 70 and went up to 71 .  I can't believe Even that .
Although I spend a lot of time in this room and I exhale and I have a
heater on until a couple days ago that would have put it up to 75 but
how come it hasn't cooled off yet. And even if there was nothing
unusual, I would still want to calibrate it
There is no way to calibrate an electronic thermometer that you buy.
Bullshit.
Post by Carlos E.R.
They are not adjustable, except on factory, some models.
"Calibration" is *defined* as simply "the comparison of an unknown to a
known standard." Adjustment is not a necessary component of calibration.

I worked many years in a FDA-regulated calibration laboratory that was
traceable to NIST (formerly NBS).

If you are so neurotic to want a home thermometer calibrated, try one of
these:

<https://www.transcat.com> <https://c2cal.com>

The service will likely cost orders of magnitude more than the thermometer.

Happy New Year
Post by Carlos E.R.
You can buy a bunch, put them in the centre of a closed box, and put the
box in a table of a closed room, with no heating or cooling. They should
all be a decimal from one another, after a while.
That's often the easiest way to discover anomalous instruments. Given a
handful of widgets, choose one that behaves like all its friends,
rejecting the misfits.
Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by micky
Anyhow can you suggest the kind of building where I would be able to see
what the temperature is there accurately ?
What is your definition of accuracy? How much do you really care?
Ralph Mowery
2024-12-30 15:30:36 UTC
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Post by Rusty
"Calibration" is *defined* as simply "the comparison of an unknown to a
known standard." Adjustment is not a necessary component of calibration.
I worked many years in a FDA-regulated calibration laboratory that was
traceable to NIST (formerly NBS).
If you are so neurotic to want a home thermometer calibrated, try one of
I worked at a company that had hundreds of temperture measuring points.
The temperature was the hardest to calibrate accurately. We did have a
standard that was calibrated to the NIST. As the temperature points
were for a process we just calibrated them and ran the continious
process and when the lab said the process was ok that is where we ran
the automatic thermostats. Most of the instruments used thermocouples
and the company we bought them from held them to only 2 deg C at 300 deg
C as most of our measurments were from 250 to 310 deg C.

Just to show how far off they could be I took an engineer to a point
that had 2 RTDs and 2 thermocouples in the same rod that was less that
1/2 of an inch in diameter and a foot long. Put it in the process and
hooked it to a device that could read them. From the highest to the
lowest was about 4 deg difference at 300 deg C. He wanted to know which
one was correct and I told him to pick one as they were all within the
limiates of our test equipment.
Carlos E.R.
2024-12-30 15:48:39 UTC
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Post by micky
I just got a new acurite wireless indoor-outdoor thermometer, from
Amazon.  I really like it and its design.
Can you suggest some place where I can calibrate its temperature?  A
public or semi public place where I can find out what temperature it is
there . I thought my home was set for 68° but maybe it's 70 , but the
temperature that the thermometer shows is 75° .When I first got it I
think it showed 70 and went up to 71 .  I can't believe Even that .
Although I spend a lot of time in this room and I exhale and I have a
heater on until a couple days ago that would have put it up to 75 but
how come it hasn't cooled off yet. And even if there was nothing
unusual, I would still want to calibrate it
There is no way to calibrate an electronic thermometer that you buy.
Bullshit.
Post by Carlos E.R.
They are not adjustable, except on factory, some models.
"Calibration" is *defined* as simply "the comparison of an unknown to a
known standard." Adjustment is not a necessary component of calibration.
To me it is.
Post by Rusty
I worked many years in a FDA-regulated calibration laboratory that was
traceable to NIST (formerly NBS).
I also worked at a company that calibrated sensors.
Post by Rusty
If you are so neurotic to want a home thermometer calibrated, try one of
<https://www.transcat.com>     <https://c2cal.com>
The service will likely cost orders of magnitude more than the thermometer.
Happy New Year
Post by Carlos E.R.
You can buy a bunch, put them in the centre of a closed box, and put
the box in a table of a closed room, with no heating or cooling. They
should all be a decimal from one another, after a while.
That's often the easiest way to discover anomalous instruments. Given a
handful of widgets, choose one that behaves like all its friends,
rejecting the misfits.
Post by Carlos E.R.
Post by micky
Anyhow can you suggest the kind of building where I would be able to see
what the temperature is there accurately ?
What is your definition of accuracy? How much do you really care?
--
Cheers, Carlos.
Rusty
2024-12-30 16:00:57 UTC
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Post by Rusty
"Calibration" is *defined* as simply "the comparison of an unknown to
a known standard." Adjustment is not a necessary component of
calibration.
To me it is.
Well, I have "calibrated" countless steel rulers. Adjustment was not
possible, but calibration, by definition, certainly was.
Roger Rhino
2024-12-30 02:07:15 UTC
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Post by micky
I just got a new acurite wireless indoor-outdoor thermometer, from
Amazon. I really like it and its design.
Can you suggest some place where I can calibrate its temperature? A
public or semi public place where I can find out what temperature it is
there . I thought my home was set for 68° but maybe it's 70 , but the
temperature that the thermometer shows is 75° .When I first got it I
think it showed 70 and went up to 71 . I can't believe Even that .
Although I spend a lot of time in this room and I exhale and I have a
heater on until a couple days ago that would have put it up to 75 but
how come it hasn't cooled off yet. And even if there was nothing
unusual, I would still want to calibrate it
Anyhow can you suggest the kind of building where I would be able to see
what the temperature is there accurately ?
If the sensor is separate from the electronic sending unit, dunk the
sensor in a bowl of ice water. It should be exactly 32°F/0°C.

If the sensor is integral to the electronics, put the whole works in a
plastic ziplock and then dunk it in the ice water bath.
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2024-12-30 03:18:48 UTC
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By calibrate, I meant compare with an accurate thermometer, and if mine
reads 3 degrees higher than it, then in the future, I subtract 3 degrees
from what mine says.

It's so easy to find clocks. Is there no public or semi-public place
where the temperature is available?



In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 29 Dec 2024 18:07:59 -0500, micky
Post by micky
I just got a new acurite wireless indoor-outdoor thermometer, from
Amazon. I really like it and its design.
Can you suggest some place where I can calibrate its temperature? A
public or semi public place where I can find out what temperature it is
there . I thought my home was set for 68° but maybe it's 70 , but the
temperature that the thermometer shows is 75° .When I first got it I
think it showed 70 and went up to 71 . I can't believe Even that .
Although I spend a lot of time in this room and I exhale and I have a
heater on until a couple days ago that would have put it up to 75 but
how come it hasn't cooled off yet. And even if there was nothing
unusual, I would still want to calibrate it
Anyhow can you suggest the kind of building where I would be able to see
what the temperature is there accurately ?
Ralph Mowery
2024-12-30 03:39:11 UTC
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@fmguy.com says...
Post by micky
By calibrate, I meant compare with an accurate thermometer, and if mine
reads 3 degrees higher than it, then in the future, I subtract 3 degrees
from what mine says.
It's so easy to find clocks. Is there no public or semi-public place
where the temperature is available?
Go to most any hardware store and look on their shelves at their
thermomaers and compair them.

Go to a friend's house and get next to their heating/cooling thermostat.
danny burstein
2024-12-30 03:51:28 UTC
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It's so easy to find clocks. Is there no public or semi-public place
where the temperature is available?
Go to most any hardware store and look on their shelves at their
thermomaers and compair them.
Go to a friend's house and get next to their heating/cooling thermostat.
Head down to your local photorapher's shop and ask her to
check your thermometer against their darkroom unit.

Oh, wait, I'm a half century late....
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2024-12-30 05:47:19 UTC
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Post by danny burstein
Post by Ralph Mowery
Post by micky
It's so easy to find clocks. Is there no public or semi-public place
where the temperature is available?
Go to most any hardware store and look on their shelves at their
thermomaers and compair them.
Excellent. I should have thought of this, but I've been sick, not
sleeping much, at least that's my story.
Post by danny burstein
Post by Ralph Mowery
Go to a friend's house and get next to their heating/cooling thermostat.
I did think of this, but I don't trust their thermostat or mine to
actually be the right temp. .If it's mine and I feel cold or hot, I turn
it up or down and don't worrry about the number. (and I've suggested
that to others here.) But I don't want to do that here, partly because
I'm going to rave about this thing on Amazon's review and I want to be
correct.
Post by danny burstein
Head down to your local photorapher's shop and ask her to
check your thermometer against their darkroom unit.
Oh, wait, I'm a half century late....
You had me going until I read this line!
Cindy Hamilton
2024-12-30 10:59:20 UTC
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I did think of this, but I don't trust their thermostat or mine to
actually be the right temp. .If it's mine and I feel cold or hot, I turn
it up or down and don't worrry about the number.
I usually put on (or take off) a sweater. Isn't that what your mother
told you to do?
--
Cindy Hamilton
Ed P
2024-12-30 13:19:29 UTC
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Post by micky
I did think of this, but I don't trust their thermostat or mine to
actually be the right temp. .If it's mine and I feel cold or hot, I turn
it up or down and don't worrry about the number.
I usually put on (or take off) a sweater. Isn't that what your mother
told you to do?
Sure, but at Micky's age, his mother may be gone and now has no one to
ask.
micky
2024-12-30 13:47:03 UTC
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Post by Cindy Hamilton
Post by micky
I did think of this, but I don't trust their thermostat or mine to
actually be the right temp. .If it's mine and I feel cold or hot, I turn
it up or down and don't worrry about the number.
I usually put on (or take off) a sweater. Isn't that what your mother
told you to do?
Turning it up or down was only done once, years ago, when I got the new
thermostat. to find the best all-around settings. . It could be
considered calibrating the home's thermostat.. Once I found the right
spot, I haven't changed the day and night settings for 30 years. . I
have a setback thermostat, which I bought when they first came out.
maybe 1983 or 88. It's semi-mechanical, that is. it's like the classic
round honeywell thermostats, not digital in any way except the clock
read-out. There are slide switches with 30 or 35 positions each, to set
the temp for day and for night. Not sold anymore. not for decades.

But I no longer leave for work every day, and my sleep is not on a
schedule. I'm as likely to be up almost all night as in the day. But it
worked out well. The battery in the thermostat died years ago and so
it's always on the day setting. I waste very little money and very
little of the world's resources, but this is an exception. For the
furnace, my mother turned the thermostat down every night at bedtime and
every morning when she woke up. She didn't rely on a battery.
Ralph Mowery
2024-12-30 15:10:53 UTC
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@fmguy.com says...
Post by micky
But I no longer leave for work every day, and my sleep is not on a
schedule. I'm as likely to be up almost all night as in the day. But it
worked out well. The battery in the thermostat died years ago and so
it's always on the day setting. I waste very little money and very
little of the world's resources, but this is an exception. For the
furnace, my mother turned the thermostat down every night at bedtime and
every morning when she woke up. She didn't rely on a battery.
Being retired we turn up in the morning and it stays there even if we
leave for a few hours. Then at night it gets turned down 2 deg. Having a
heat pump it we set it in the way in the summer. The house stays from 70
to 74 deg all year and we dress to match.
Ed P
2024-12-30 15:25:56 UTC
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Post by micky
But I no longer leave for work every day, and my sleep is not on a
schedule. I'm as likely to be up almost all night as in the day. But it
worked out well. The battery in the thermostat died years ago and so
it's always on the day setting. I waste very little money and very
little of the world's resources, but this is an exception. For the
furnace, my mother turned the thermostat down every night at bedtime and
every morning when she woke up. She didn't rely on a battery.
Being retired we turn up in the morning and it stays there even if we
leave for a few hours. Then at night it gets turned down 2 deg. Having a
heat pump it we set it in the way in the summer. The house stays from 70
to 74 deg all year and we dress to match.
When we lived in cold climate, during the day 70 was comfy. Sleep was
65. In summer, if the AC was on, low 70s was good.

Now in a warm climate, 77 daytime summer is good, 74 for sleeping.
When we had a cold spell I switched to heat mode and 72 daytime was on
the chilly side, 70 at sleep.

I have a new Honeywell T-stat that gives me a report of runtime for heat
and cool. It will be interesting (to me, anyway) to see how next year
compares.
Frank
2024-12-30 17:20:43 UTC
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Post by micky
But I no longer leave for work every day, and my sleep is not on a
schedule. I'm as likely to be up almost all night as in the day.  But it
worked out well. The battery in the thermostat died years ago and so
it's always on the day setting.  I waste very little money and very
little of the world's resources, but this is an exception.   For the
furnace, my mother turned the thermostat down every night at bedtime and
every morning when she woke up.  She didn't rely on a battery.
Being retired we turn up in the morning and it stays there even if we
leave for a few hours. Then at night it gets turned down 2 deg. Having a
heat pump it we set it in the way in the summer. The house stays from 70
to 74 deg all year and we dress to match.
When we lived in cold climate, during the day 70 was comfy.  Sleep was
65. In summer, if the AC was on, low 70s was good.
Now in a warm climate, 77 daytime summer is good, 74 for sleeping. When
we had a cold spell I switched to heat mode and 72 daytime was on the
chilly side, 70 at sleep.
I have a new Honeywell T-stat that gives me a report of runtime for heat
and cool.  It will be interesting (to me, anyway) to see how next year
compares.
I have the same and get reports too. Last one said it was colder for
the period this year than last. I do not change setting but there is an
app that I could put on the cell phone to change temperature if I wanted to.

Calibrating thermometers is a thing of the past for me. The thermostat,
two indoor outdoor weather stations and an alcohol thermometer all agree.
Ed P
2024-12-30 17:57:16 UTC
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Post by micky
But I no longer leave for work every day, and my sleep is not on a
schedule. I'm as likely to be up almost all night as in the day.
But it
worked out well. The battery in the thermostat died years ago and so
it's always on the day setting.  I waste very little money and very
little of the world's resources, but this is an exception.   For the
furnace, my mother turned the thermostat down every night at bedtime and
every morning when she woke up.  She didn't rely on a battery.
Being retired we turn up in the morning and it stays there even if we
leave for a few hours. Then at night it gets turned down 2 deg. Having a
heat pump it we set it in the way in the summer. The house stays from 70
to 74 deg all year and we dress to match.
When we lived in cold climate, during the day 70 was comfy.  Sleep was
65. In summer, if the AC was on, low 70s was good.
Now in a warm climate, 77 daytime summer is good, 74 for sleeping.
When we had a cold spell I switched to heat mode and 72 daytime was on
the chilly side, 70 at sleep.
I have a new Honeywell T-stat that gives me a report of runtime for
heat and cool.  It will be interesting (to me, anyway) to see how next
year compares.
I have the same and get reports too.  Last one said it was colder for
the period this year than last.  I do not change setting but there is an
app that I could put on the cell phone to change temperature if I wanted to.
Calibrating thermometers is a thing of the past for me. The thermostat,
two indoor outdoor weather stations and an alcohol thermometer all agree.
I have the app on my phone and can see a daily graph and weekly total.
Week of 12/16 I have 5 hours heating 3 hours cooling.
Last week 24 minutes cooling 1 hr 35 minutes heating.

In August, it would be about 70 hours cooling.
micky
2024-12-30 16:02:35 UTC
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Post by Cindy Hamilton
Post by micky
I did think of this, but I don't trust their thermostat or mine to
actually be the right temp. .If it's mine and I feel cold or hot, I turn
it up or down and don't worrry about the number.
I usually put on (or take off) a sweater. Isn't that what your mother
told you to do?
Cindy, I latched on to your question and ignored the question behind
your question , which i think is why do you care what the temperature
is. There are several reasons . One is that I always thought the house
was at 68 during the day , and now that I have this new thermometer it
says 73 all the time. Maybe I set the thermostat at 68 and I got 73
instead. .I doubt it but I would like to know.

Reason 2 is that a few nights ago it was 14° out , and i got out of
heater because 'cause I wasn't sure the furnace would take care of
things.I started the heater with the lowest setting and gradually turned
it up a tiny bit until everything was working all but it climbed to 83 .
And strangely I was not hot even at 83 nor was I called at 73 . I'd like
to know if those were real numbers or if perhaps it was 68 and 78 .
Reasons like that , so it's not just a matter of policy that i have at
least two reasons why i wanna know what this thermometer says is
accurate .

After a couple nights with the heater on all night and even during the
day I turned it off and was surprised that the house stayed at least
this room stayed at 73 all the time . I wanna know what the temperature
really is .

By the way, the heater is interesting in itself. I've had it for 45 or
50 years and it was 20 years old at least when I found it somewhere.
When I last used it in New York where the landlord Once in a while
didn't provide enough heat, it was plugged in to a single receptacle,
not a double like everybody else has and the rest of tha apartment had,
in the maid's room, where i lived in my 6 room apartment , and one night
or early one morning I was lucky enough to wake up and see the plug was
on fire. Because the receptacle was 45 years old and it was loose. Now
my current house is 45 years old but I don't think any of the
receptacles are loose yet, which means they make better receptacles than
they used to. My apartment then was in what had been a luxury building
and I'm sure they didn't economize on the receptacles yet it was loose
enough, hot enough to start a fire and the flames were an inch or two
high from this black rubber plug that was on this old heater . I pulled
out the cord and the flames went away . Then i replaced the plug with a
new nice one with its own springiness, that they don't sell anymore
because it's wide in one direction but too narrow in the other. But
everything else is original at least 60 years old . I love old stuff
---I also have the heater my mother bought when I was an infant 77 years
ago so that she could warm the bathroom before I got a bath. That was in
perfect condition until about 20 years ago , even the cloth cord. It was
underneath the the bathroom sink and so was a A cardboard cylinder of
toilet bowl cleaner , and even though nothing got wet the fumes of the
cleaner must have filled the space there and it corroded all the Chrome
parts on this heater . It still works i'm sure but it's no longer
beautiful like it was for the 1st 50 years . It's also bulkier and
heavier than the newew cheaper one but it's nice because it has a foot
switch so you can turn it on and off while standing up . I think it has
no thermostat . So you can't leave it alone . I had two other heaters an
old small one very simple , and one from the 1980s that was big and wide
and tall and Too bulky for what it did. . I must have given them away or
they would be under the sink with these two
Cindy Hamilton
2024-12-30 18:32:19 UTC
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Post by Cindy Hamilton
Post by micky
I did think of this, but I don't trust their thermostat or mine to
actually be the right temp. .If it's mine and I feel cold or hot, I turn
it up or down and don't worrry about the number.
I usually put on (or take off) a sweater. Isn't that what your mother
told you to do?
Cindy, I latched on to your question and ignored the question behind
your question , which i think is why do you care what the temperature
is. There are several reasons . One is that I always thought the house
was at 68 during the day , and now that I have this new thermometer it
says 73 all the time.
Perhaps your ancient thermostat is defective. I imagine you'd be
cold if your house actually was 68, depending on your activity level.
--
Cindy Hamilton
Clare Snyder
2024-12-30 20:06:44 UTC
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Post by Cindy Hamilton
Post by micky
I did think of this, but I don't trust their thermostat or mine to
actually be the right temp. .If it's mine and I feel cold or hot, I turn
it up or down and don't worrry about the number.
I usually put on (or take off) a sweater. Isn't that what your mother
told you to do?
Cindy, I latched on to your question and ignored the question behind
your question , which i think is why do you care what the temperature
is. There are several reasons . One is that I always thought the house
was at 68 during the day , and now that I have this new thermometer it
says 73 all the time.
Perhaps your ancient thermostat is defective. I imagine you'd be
cold if your house actually was 68, depending on your activity level.
We generally keep the house around 18C - that's 64.4F most of the day
and crank it up to about 21C (a BCH less than 70F) when we are sitting
around in the evening then down to 17C (just under 63F) for sleeping.

In the summer we set to about 24c (75f +/-) if it gets uncomfortably
hot and muggy - more to dehumidify than cool (up here in the
"interlaken" area between Lake Ontario and Lake Erie, and south of
Lake Huron where it can get VERY muggy in July and August) although
when it hits 33C and above (90F+) the cooling is also DEFINITELY
welcome!!!!!!
RJH
2024-12-31 06:43:14 UTC
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Post by Cindy Hamilton
Post by micky
In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 30 Dec 2024 10:59:20 -0000 (UTC), Cindy
Post by Cindy Hamilton
Post by micky
I did think of this, but I don't trust their thermostat or mine to
actually be the right temp. .If it's mine and I feel cold or hot, I turn
it up or down and don't worrry about the number.
I usually put on (or take off) a sweater. Isn't that what your mother
told you to do?
Cindy, I latched on to your question and ignored the question behind
your question , which i think is why do you care what the temperature
is. There are several reasons . One is that I always thought the house
was at 68 during the day , and now that I have this new thermometer it
says 73 all the time.
Perhaps your ancient thermostat is defective. I imagine you'd be
cold if your house actually was 68, depending on your activity level.
We generally keep the house around 18C - that's 64.4F most of the day
and crank it up to about 21C (a BCH less than 70F) when we are sitting
around in the evening then down to 17C (just under 63F) for sleeping.
Very rare for my (UK) home to be above 18C/64F in the winter - and I don't
think I'm untypical. When I'm out or overnight, I'll let it go down to about
14C/57F. I find it perfectly comfortable.
Post by Clare Snyder
In the summer we set to about 24c (75f +/-) if it gets uncomfortably
hot and muggy - more to dehumidify than cool (up here in the
"interlaken" area between Lake Ontario and Lake Erie, and south of
Lake Huron where it can get VERY muggy in July and August) although
when it hits 33C and above (90F+) the cooling is also DEFINITELY
welcome!!!!!!
Don't really have that problem here :-)
--
Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK
Ed P
2024-12-30 04:31:09 UTC
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By calibrate, I meant compare with an accurate thermometer, and if mine
reads 3 degrees higher than it, then in the future, I subtract 3 degrees
from what mine says.
It's so easy to find clocks. Is there no public or semi-public place
where the temperature is available?
Do you have digital meat thermometer? How about your neighbor?

As for the outdoor, important to keep the sensor out of direct sun. My
weather station will read a few degrees high from about noon to 4PM.
micky
2024-12-30 05:47:28 UTC
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Post by Ed P
Post by micky
By calibrate, I meant compare with an accurate thermometer, and if mine
reads 3 degrees higher than it, then in the future, I subtract 3 degrees
from what mine says.
It's so easy to find clocks. Is there no public or semi-public place
where the temperature is available?
Do you have digital meat thermometer? How about your neighbor?
I don't.
Post by Ed P
As for the outdoor, important to keep the sensor out of direct sun. My
weather station will read a few degrees high from about noon to 4PM.
Some reviewers complained about the two temps not maching even when they
were next to each other. Mine were 2 degrees apart but in 10 minutes one
went down and the o ther went up 1.
Cindy Hamilton
2024-12-30 10:58:06 UTC
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By calibrate, I meant compare with an accurate thermometer, and if mine
reads 3 degrees higher than it, then in the future, I subtract 3 degrees
from what mine says.
Why does it matter? It's bound to be close.
Post by micky
It's so easy to find clocks. Is there no public or semi-public place
where the temperature is available?
Try WunderMap.

https://www.wunderground.com/wundermap

You can set it to show local weather stations. You really don't even
need your own, just use the Internet as Al Gore intended.

Right now, the ones in my area are showing somewhere around 37 or 38 F.
I have a bimetallic analog thermometer hanging near my back door that
shows an RCH under 40. Close enough for jazz.
--
Cindy Hamilton
Greta Th0ngturd
2024-12-30 11:39:03 UTC
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By calibrate, I meant compare with an accurate thermometer, and if mine
reads 3 degrees higher than it, then in the future, I subtract 3 degrees
from what mine says.
It's so easy to find clocks. Is there no public or semi-public place
where the temperature is available?
https://www.amazon.com/Honeywell-Home-Smart-Color-Thermostat/dp/B09TBGGLQB

During thermostat setup, enter your zip code.
Mine displays the temperature recorded by the local airport AWOS.

If you ever see a Honeywell RTH9600WF in a dumpster, grab it.
micky
2024-12-30 15:33:29 UTC
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Post by Greta Th0ngturd
Post by micky
By calibrate, I meant compare with an accurate thermometer, and if mine
reads 3 degrees higher than it, then in the future, I subtract 3 degrees
from what mine says.
It's so easy to find clocks. Is there no public or semi-public place
where the temperature is available?
https://www.amazon.com/Honeywell-Home-Smart-Color-Thermostat/dp/B09TBGGLQB
During thermostat setup, enter your zip code.
Mine displays the temperature recorded by the local airport AWOS.
The temperature at the airport is hardly the temp in my homne.
Post by Greta Th0ngturd
If you ever see a Honeywell RTH9600WF in a dumpster, grab it.
My local electric company has them for $5 (instead of 120) but I would
still have to calibrate/verify it. Being digital doesn't make it
accurate.
ABLE1
2024-12-30 14:45:04 UTC
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I just got a new acurite wireless indoor-outdoor thermometer, from
Amazon. I really like it and its design.
Can you suggest some place where I can calibrate its temperature? A
public or semi public place where I can find out what temperature it is
there . I thought my home was set for 68° but maybe it's 70 , but the
temperature that the thermometer shows is 75° .When I first got it I
think it showed 70 and went up to 71 . I can't believe Even that .
Although I spend a lot of time in this room and I exhale and I have a
heater on until a couple days ago that would have put it up to 75 but
how come it hasn't cooled off yet. And even if there was nothing
unusual, I would still want to calibrate it
Anyhow can you suggest the kind of building where I would be able to see
what the temperature is there accurately ?
With all the comments, thought and suggestion it reminded of something
from many, many years ago and thought I would share.

I use to be a "Maintenance Supervisor at a Plastic Extrusion Company.
One day I was walking down the Office hallway and Harry was in his
office as I went by. He shouted out to me and asked if it felt hot
in his office. He looked over at a Mercury Thermometer that he had on
his wall. I looked at it and said, I am all lathered up Harry from
running myself around. I will stop back later and check the A/C.

I waited until he went to lunch. Then I went into his office and
removed the Thermometer and slid the glass tube down about 2 degrees
and put it back on the wall. Later when he was back in his office
I stopped in and told him I made an adjustment and does it feel
more comfortable?? He looked at his Thermometer and said "perfect".

End of story!! :-)
micky
2024-12-30 16:34:40 UTC
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Post by micky
I just got a new acurite wireless indoor-outdoor thermometer, from
Amazon. I really like it and its design.
Can you suggest some place where I can calibrate its temperature? A
public or semi public place where I can find out what temperature it is
there . I thought my home was set for 68° but maybe it's 70 , but the
temperature that the thermometer shows is 75° .When I first got it I
think it showed 70 and went up to 71 . I can't believe Even that .
Although I spend a lot of time in this room and I exhale and I have a
heater on until a couple days ago that would have put it up to 75 but
how come it hasn't cooled off yet. And even if there was nothing
unusual, I would still want to calibrate it
Anyhow can you suggest the kind of building where I would be able to see
what the temperature is there accurately ?
With all the comments, thought and suggestion it reminded of something
from many, many years ago and thought I would share.
I use to be a "Maintenance Supervisor at a Plastic Extrusion Company.
One day I was walking down the Office hallway and Harry was in his
office as I went by. He shouted out to me and asked if it felt hot
in his office. He looked over at a Mercury Thermometer that he had on
his wall. I looked at it and said, I am all lathered up Harry from
running myself around. I will stop back later and check the A/C.
I waited until he went to lunch. Then I went into his office and
removed the Thermometer and slid the glass tube down about 2 degrees
and put it back on the wall. Later when he was back in his office
I stopped in and told him I made an adjustment and does it feel
more comfortable?? He looked at his Thermometer and said "perfect".
End of story!! :-)
LOL VEry good. I'm not immune to mistaken feelings, but there is no
one here but me to adjust my thermometer. I might even be able to fool
myself, but it's harder.
ABLE1
2024-12-30 21:00:06 UTC
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In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 30 Dec 2024 09:45:04 -0500, ABLE1
Post by ABLE1
Post by micky
I just got a new acurite wireless indoor-outdoor thermometer, from
Amazon. I really like it and its design.
Can you suggest some place where I can calibrate its temperature? A
public or semi public place where I can find out what temperature it is
there . I thought my home was set for 68° but maybe it's 70 , but the
temperature that the thermometer shows is 75° .When I first got it I
think it showed 70 and went up to 71 . I can't believe Even that .
Although I spend a lot of time in this room and I exhale and I have a
heater on until a couple days ago that would have put it up to 75 but
how come it hasn't cooled off yet. And even if there was nothing
unusual, I would still want to calibrate it
Anyhow can you suggest the kind of building where I would be able to see
what the temperature is there accurately ?
With all the comments, thought and suggestion it reminded of something
from many, many years ago and thought I would share.
I use to be a "Maintenance Supervisor at a Plastic Extrusion Company.
One day I was walking down the Office hallway and Harry was in his
office as I went by. He shouted out to me and asked if it felt hot
in his office. He looked over at a Mercury Thermometer that he had on
his wall. I looked at it and said, I am all lathered up Harry from
running myself around. I will stop back later and check the A/C.
I waited until he went to lunch. Then I went into his office and
removed the Thermometer and slid the glass tube down about 2 degrees
and put it back on the wall. Later when he was back in his office
I stopped in and told him I made an adjustment and does it feel
more comfortable?? He looked at his Thermometer and said "perfect".
End of story!! :-)
LOL VEry good. I'm not immune to mistaken feelings, but there is no
one here but me to adjust my thermometer. I might even be able to fool
myself, but it's harder.
Glad you liked the 'Story'!!
Actually that was only Part 1 of the 'Story'!!
Part 2 is much shorter, and it goes like this.
When the weather changed and the Heat went ON, before he tried to
tell me that the Temperature was Off I went back in his office
and adjusted the Glass Tube back to the original setting.
He never complained...................... ;-)

BTW I am guessing with the huge pile of comments, suggestion, etc.
you have more knowledge about the temperature thing!!
Personally I have similar twist but I have figured out that the
biggest challenge with the temperature is the Humidity level.
During the winter I have a Humidifier that runs 24/7 and at the
unit itself it is set to 60%. It cycles off at 61% and On at 57%.
This means the rest of the house is maybe 45-50% Relative Humidity.
It does quite well until the outside Humidity drops below 30% and then
it runs at about 50-55% maybe. The other challenge is that I need
to replace the filter due to the hard water every month. No big deal,
just needs to be on the maintenance schedule.

The thoughts on Relative Humidity levels will make your comfort level
better. Maybe, you have already went down that path.................

As for finding a "accurate" temperature device!!
Get a woman to live in the house and adjust to her comfort level.

Later,

Les
micky
2024-12-31 03:31:10 UTC
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Glad you liked the 'Story'!!
Actually that was only Part 1 of the 'Story'!!
Part 2 is much shorter, and it goes like this.
When the weather changed and the Heat went ON, before he tried to
tell me that the Temperature was Off I went back in his office
and adjusted the Glass Tube back to the original setting.
He never complained......................
That's great!

I don't know how I didn't think of this the first time, but i have a
story related to your story.

We had a good landlord when I moved into the apartment in Brooklyn about
1974, but her husband nad died, she got old, reitired to Florida, and
sold the building to someone who turned out to be or wanted to be a
slumlord . He had other properties which he really did make into slums
but ours was pretty good and instead he didn't provide enough heat
sometimes. At night and he eveb turned the heat down illegally during
the daytime even though they were old ladies people living in the
building who didn't go out during the daytime . And I got cold too .

I went to the basement , unscrewed the half on the furnace room
door,hasp because it wasn't put on correctly so that it covered the
screws, because the door wasn't perfect and that would have been
difficult. The first time I looked around the furnace room and noted
that he had short circuited the the box that turned off the furnace when
there was smoke . That did not make me happy but an architect in the
building said that with our cement floor 4 inches of cement between the
basement and 1st floor it was not a big fire danger . Oh there was also
a plastic dish pan of oil where the oil to the burner dripped and rather
than fix the leak he had a dish fan there. And by the way his profession
was a plumber , U don't think he was a good plumber . Then I saw the
heat output control box and I looked at that

And I didn't do anything the first time or the second time I was there,
When I left the room, I screwed the hasp back on and put spit on the
screws so that they would rust by morning.

But the third time I was still cold and sometimes he still did things he
wasn't supposed to do even after landlord tenant court told him not to.
I was told that a baby had died because he was sick and there wasn't
enough heat. The heat output control box didn't have temperature
markings only letters ABCDEFG , i think , and I turned it up from C to D
or D to E , and then I loosened the set screw on the knob and pointed
the knob at the original value and tightened the set screw . And by
golly we had more heat. I moved a few years later to Baltimore and I
never told anybody what I did . The architect had moved and I didn't
know anyone I could really entrust this information, This strikes me a
lot like your adjusting the thermometer :-)
ABLE1
2024-12-31 12:36:20 UTC
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In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:00:06 -0500, ABLE1
Post by ABLE1
Glad you liked the 'Story'!!
Actually that was only Part 1 of the 'Story'!!
Part 2 is much shorter, and it goes like this.
When the weather changed and the Heat went ON, before he tried to
tell me that the Temperature was Off I went back in his office
and adjusted the Glass Tube back to the original setting.
He never complained......................
That's great!
I don't know how I didn't think of this the first time, but i have a
story related to your story.
We had a good landlord when I moved into the apartment in Brooklyn about
1974, but her husband nad died, she got old, reitired to Florida, and
sold the building to someone who turned out to be or wanted to be a
slumlord . He had other properties which he really did make into slums
but ours was pretty good and instead he didn't provide enough heat
sometimes. At night and he eveb turned the heat down illegally during
the daytime even though they were old ladies people living in the
building who didn't go out during the daytime . And I got cold too .
I went to the basement , unscrewed the half on the furnace room
door,hasp because it wasn't put on correctly so that it covered the
screws, because the door wasn't perfect and that would have been
difficult. The first time I looked around the furnace room and noted
that he had short circuited the the box that turned off the furnace when
there was smoke . That did not make me happy but an architect in the
building said that with our cement floor 4 inches of cement between the
basement and 1st floor it was not a big fire danger . Oh there was also
a plastic dish pan of oil where the oil to the burner dripped and rather
than fix the leak he had a dish fan there. And by the way his profession
was a plumber , U don't think he was a good plumber . Then I saw the
heat output control box and I looked at that
And I didn't do anything the first time or the second time I was there,
When I left the room, I screwed the hasp back on and put spit on the
screws so that they would rust by morning.
But the third time I was still cold and sometimes he still did things he
wasn't supposed to do even after landlord tenant court told him not to.
I was told that a baby had died because he was sick and there wasn't
enough heat. The heat output control box didn't have temperature
markings only letters ABCDEFG , i think , and I turned it up from C to D
or D to E , and then I loosened the set screw on the knob and pointed
the knob at the original value and tightened the set screw . And by
golly we had more heat. I moved a few years later to Baltimore and I
never told anybody what I did . The architect had moved and I didn't
know anyone I could really entrust this information, This strikes me a
lot like your adjusting the thermometer :-)
LOL
I was living in an apartment back in the 70's as well. I was on
the 3rd floor. The landlord's parents lived on the 1st floor.
During the winter the thermostat on the 3rd floor controlled the
whole building!! It had a plastic lock box on it so I could not make
any adjustments!!! Don't remember what it was set for but one day it
got very cold outside strong wind blowing and unbearable inside on the
3rd floor. So, I took a plastic baggie and filled it with some ice
cubes and placed it on top of the lock box. The heat came on and the
day was great!! The landlord showed up later saying that something was
wrong with the thermostat since it got VERY HOT on the 1st floor!! I
said, maybe the thermostat got stuck ON some how??? He then had
heating guy come in and inspect. Didn't find any thing wrong!!! :-)
micky
2025-01-01 21:21:38 UTC
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Post by micky
In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:00:06 -0500, ABLE1
Post by ABLE1
Glad you liked the 'Story'!!
Actually that was only Part 1 of the 'Story'!!
Part 2 is much shorter, and it goes like this.
When the weather changed and the Heat went ON, before he tried to
tell me that the Temperature was Off I went back in his office
and adjusted the Glass Tube back to the original setting.
He never complained......................
That's great!
I don't know how I didn't think of this the first time, but i have a
story related to your story.
We had a good landlord when I moved into the apartment in Brooklyn about
1974, but her husband nad died, she got old, reitired to Florida, and
sold the building to someone who turned out to be or wanted to be a
slumlord . He had other properties which he really did make into slums
but ours was pretty good and instead he didn't provide enough heat
sometimes. At night and he eveb turned the heat down illegally during
the daytime even though they were old ladies people living in the
building who didn't go out during the daytime . And I got cold too .
I went to the basement , unscrewed the half on the furnace room
door,hasp because it wasn't put on correctly so that it covered the
screws, because the door wasn't perfect and that would have been
difficult. The first time I looked around the furnace room and noted
that he had short circuited the the box that turned off the furnace when
there was smoke . That did not make me happy but an architect in the
building said that with our cement floor 4 inches of cement between the
basement and 1st floor it was not a big fire danger . Oh there was also
a plastic dish pan of oil where the oil to the burner dripped and rather
than fix the leak he had a dish fan there. And by the way his profession
was a plumber , U don't think he was a good plumber . Then I saw the
heat output control box and I looked at that
And I didn't do anything the first time or the second time I was there,
When I left the room, I screwed the hasp back on and put spit on the
screws so that they would rust by morning.
But the third time I was still cold and sometimes he still did things he
wasn't supposed to do even after landlord tenant court told him not to.
I was told that a baby had died because he was sick and there wasn't
enough heat. The heat output control box didn't have temperature
markings only letters ABCDEFG , i think , and I turned it up from C to D
or D to E , and then I loosened the set screw on the knob and pointed
the knob at the original value and tightened the set screw . And by
golly we had more heat. I moved a few years later to Baltimore and I
never told anybody what I did . The architect had moved and I didn't
know anyone I could really entrust this information, This strikes me a
lot like your adjusting the thermometer :-)
LOL
I was living in an apartment back in the 70's as well. I was on
the 3rd floor. The landlord's parents lived on the 1st floor.
During the winter the thermostat on the 3rd floor controlled the
whole building!! It had a plastic lock box on it so I could not make
any adjustments!!! Don't remember what it was set for but one day it
got very cold outside strong wind blowing and unbearable inside on the
3rd floor. So, I took a plastic baggie and filled it with some ice
cubes and placed it on top of the lock box. The heat came on and the
day was great!! The landlord showed up later saying that something was
wrong with the thermostat since it got VERY HOT on the 1st floor!! I
said, maybe the thermostat got stuck ON some how??? He then had
heating guy come in and inspect. Didn't find any thing wrong!!! :-)
At least he had an honest heating guy.

Great story. I already told it to a friend of mine.

Meanwhile, I went to Home Depot. Lots of thermometers but they were in
the garden shop, outside. 40^, lots of wind. Would take at least
5minutes for my thermometer to reach the outside temp. So I left, I'll
find an all-inside hardware store.

Meanwhile, prices aren't usually this different, But they had a
thermometer the same brand for $60.50 that did a little less than the
one I've got from Amazon $27.50
https://www.homedepot.com/p/AcuRite-Indoor-Outdoor-Wireless-Thermometer-with-Humidity-and-Clock-01128HD/317772426
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WXIR8SO?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title

Remote units look identical, and Home Depot gives the time and
everything gives the time , but it doesn't show retrospective 12 hours
24 hours 36 hours 48 hours, and all-time . Awfully big difference in
price
ABLE1
2025-01-01 22:42:38 UTC
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At least he had an honest heating guy.
Great story. I already told it to a friend of mine.
Meanwhile, I went to Home Depot. Lots of thermometers but they were in
the garden shop, outside. 40^, lots of wind. Would take at least
5minutes for my thermometer to reach the outside temp. So I left, I'll
find an all-inside hardware store.
Meanwhile, prices aren't usually this different, But they had a
thermometer the same brand for $60.50 that did a little less than the
one I've got from Amazon $27.50
https://www.homedepot.com/p/AcuRite-Indoor-Outdoor-Wireless-Thermometer-with-Humidity-and-Clock-01128HD/317772426
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WXIR8SO?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title
Remote units look identical, and Home Depot gives the time and
everything gives the time , but it doesn't show retrospective 12 hours
24 hours 36 hours 48 hours, and all-time . Awfully big difference in
price
BTW they are not the same unit. The amazon does not show Humidity.
Hence the higher cost I am thinking.

I actually have an older version of the AcuRite unit.
Only shows outside Temp no Humidity for outside. Works quite well.
The outside transmitter is unique to each inside unit. They have to
be properly matched in order to work.
I know because I have had more that one!!

As for accuracy, that is ALWAYS a good question!?!?!?!

Les
micky
2025-01-02 03:27:19 UTC
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BTW they are not the same unit. The amazon does not show Humidity.
Hence the higher cost I am thinking.
You're right. I missed that the other does show humidity. So it's
comparing apples and oranges, but i'm dubious about all humidty guages
except dry bulb/wet bulb. Some just use a string that gets longer if
humidy changes in the right direction. AIUI, they don't work for long.
Or has there been a breakthrough in the last several years?
Post by ABLE1
I actually have an older version of the AcuRite unit.
Only shows outside Temp no Humidity for outside. Works quite well.
The outside transmitter is unique to each inside unit. They have to
be properly matched in order to work.
I know because I have had more that one!!
As for accuracy, that is ALWAYS a good question!?!?!?!
Les
Bob F
2025-01-01 22:48:37 UTC
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Post by ABLE1
Glad you liked the 'Story'!!
Actually that was only Part 1 of the 'Story'!!
Part 2 is much shorter, and it goes like this.
When the weather changed and the Heat went ON, before he tried to
tell me that the Temperature was Off I went back in his office
and adjusted the Glass Tube back to the original setting.
He never complained......................
That's great!
I don't know how I didn't think of this the first time, but i have a
story related to your story.
We had a good landlord when I moved into the apartment in Brooklyn about
1974, but her husband nad died, she got old, reitired to Florida, and
sold the building to someone who turned out to be or wanted to be a
slumlord . He had other properties which he really did make into slums
but ours was pretty good and instead he didn't provide enough heat
sometimes. At night and he eveb turned the heat down illegally during
the daytime even though they were old ladies people living in the
building who didn't go out during the daytime . And I got cold too .
I went to the basement , unscrewed the half on the furnace room
door,hasp because it wasn't put on correctly so that it covered the
screws, because the door wasn't perfect and that would have been
difficult. The first time I looked around the furnace room and noted
that he had short circuited the the box that turned off the furnace when
there was smoke . That did not make me happy but an architect in the
building said that with our cement floor 4 inches of cement between the
basement and 1st floor it was not a big fire danger . Oh there was also
a plastic dish pan of oil where the oil to the burner dripped and rather
than fix the leak he had a dish fan there. And by the way his profession
was a plumber , U don't think he was a good plumber . Then I saw the
heat output control box and I looked at that
And I didn't do anything the first time or the second time I was there,
When I left the room, I screwed the hasp back on and put spit on the
screws so that they would rust by morning.
But the third time I was still cold and sometimes he still did things he
wasn't supposed to do even after landlord tenant court told him not to.
I was told that a baby had died because he was sick and there wasn't
enough heat. The heat output control box didn't have temperature
markings only letters ABCDEFG , i think , and I turned it up from C to D
or D to E , and then I loosened the set screw on the knob and pointed
the knob at the original value and tightened the set screw . And by
golly we had more heat. I moved a few years later to Baltimore and I
never told anybody what I did . The architect had moved and I didn't
know anyone I could really entrust this information, This strikes me a
lot like your adjusting the thermometer :-)
LOL
I was living in an apartment back in the 70's as well. I was on
the 3rd floor. The landlord's parents lived on the 1st floor.
During the winter the thermostat on the 3rd floor controlled the
whole building!! It had a plastic lock box on it so I could not make
any adjustments!!! Don't remember what it was set for but one day it
got very cold outside strong wind blowing and unbearable inside on the
3rd floor. So, I took a plastic baggie and filled it with some ice
cubes and placed it on top of the lock box. The heat came on and the
day was great!! The landlord showed up later saying that something was
wrong with the thermostat since it got VERY HOT on the 1st floor!! I
said, maybe the thermostat got stuck ON some how??? He then had
heating guy come in and inspect. Didn't find any thing wrong!!! :-)
At least he had an honest heating guy.
Great story. I already told it to a friend of mine.
Meanwhile, I went to Home Depot. Lots of thermometers but they were in
the garden shop, outside. 40^, lots of wind. Would take at least
5minutes for my thermometer to reach the outside temp. So I left, I'll
find an all-inside hardware store.
Meanwhile, prices aren't usually this different, But they had a
thermometer the same brand for $60.50 that did a little less than the
one I've got from Amazon $27.50
https://www.homedepot.com/p/AcuRite-Indoor-Outdoor-Wireless-Thermometer-with-Humidity-and-Clock-01128HD/317772426
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WXIR8SO?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title
Remote units look identical, and Home Depot gives the time and
everything gives the time , but it doesn't show retrospective 12 hours
24 hours 36 hours 48 hours, and all-time . Awfully big difference in
price
I just ordered this one for $25
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D1VCSY1N?smid=A1I3Q9XD3CCAZX&ref_=chk_typ_imgToDp&th=1
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