Basketball Noise

[Buck Turgidson]

Unfortunately, the city I live in allows basketball hoops in driveways.
What's further unfortunate is my neighbor's 4 kids are constantly playing
outside my and my children's BR window. Sometimes each with their own
basketball.

I've called their parents twice when it was time for our young kids'
bedtime. He was cooperative about it. But the constant thumping of a
basketball gets old during the day, too. Occasionally, other their little
friends will come over for practice, too.

I don't want to deprive their kids of their fun, but at the same time, I am
entitled to the quiet enjoyment of my property.

Do I have any recourse? I am not optomistic that I do.

[Zephyr]

Post by Buck Turgidson
Unfortunately, the city I live in allows basketball hoops in driveways.
What's further unfortunate is my neighbor's 4 kids are constantly playing
outside my and my children's BR window. Sometimes each with their own
basketball.
I've called their parents twice when it was time for our young kids'
bedtime. He was cooperative about it. But the constant thumping of a
basketball gets old during the day, too. Occasionally, other their little
friends will come over for practice, too.
I don't want to deprive their kids of their fun, but at the same time, I
am entitled to the quiet enjoyment of my property.
Do I have any recourse? I am not optomistic that I do.

Your neighbor has as many rights as you do..

I'd say Take a look at what the playing ball is doing for the health of the
kids (vs watching TV)
be happy that they are participating in an activity that is constructive
rather than destructive.
put a positive mental spin on the thump and be happy when you hear it, it
could be much worse.

that and, when your kids are old enough, they will have good competition
right next door to play against.


Dave

[h***@aol.com]

Post by Buck Turgidson
Unfortunately, the city I live in allows basketball hoops in driveways.
What's further unfortunate is my neighbor's 4 kids are constantly playing
outside my and my children's BR window. �Sometimes each with their own
basketball.
I've called their parents twice when it was time for our young kids'
bedtime. �He was cooperative about it. �But the constant thumping of a
basketball gets old during the day, too. �Occasionally, other their little
friends will come over for practice, too.
I don't want to deprive their kids of their fun, but at the same time, I am
entitled to the quiet enjoyment of my property.
Do I have any recourse? �I am not optomistic that I do.

well you can minimize noise infiltration, with double pane windows,
closed cell insulation, perhaps storm windows.

you can mask the thump with noise of your own, like a fan running or
white noise generator, they make a variety of sounds, waves, water
running, showers etc. Can be very effective.

or you can move to a area where you own several acres, with the home
centered on the lot, and lots of screening like dense pine trees
around perimeter.

Unless they are thumping late at nite your probably stuck.

A neighbor of mine got upset with all sorts of neighborhood noise
after starting a home based investment business. dogs barking
basketballs thumping kids playing didnt fit in with his phone
appearance........

After becoming a neighbor nuisance by complaing and calls to police,
and getting him in trouble himself he made a GREAT decision and moved.

Be careful if you complain too much it can backfire, your neighbors
will comew to hate you and nitpick on every little thing YOU do.

[Charles Schuler]

Storm windows?

Seriously, a good storm window would cut down on the transmission of sound
through your existing window. Not by a lot, but perhaps enough to make the
thumping more easily ignored.

[Oren]

On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:50:10 -0400, "Buck Turgidson"

Post by Buck Turgidson
Unfortunately, the city I live in allows basketball hoops in driveways.
What's further unfortunate is my neighbor's 4 kids are constantly playing
outside my and my children's BR window. Sometimes each with their own
basketball.
I've called their parents twice when it was time for our young kids'
bedtime. He was cooperative about it. But the constant thumping of a
basketball gets old during the day, too. Occasionally, other their little
friends will come over for practice, too.
I don't want to deprive their kids of their fun, but at the same time, I am
entitled to the quiet enjoyment of my property.
Do I have any recourse? I am not optomistic that I do.

Relax. I went through the same thing. Sometimes, more than a dozen
kids. In our area they move the hoops into the street, not just the
driveway. Many times I've seen speeding cars on the street.

It will come to the end as soon as the kids discovery other, more
interesting things and I moved after ten years.

Recourse? Turn up the stereo.....
--
Oren

"If things get any worse, I'll have to ask you to stop helping me."

[Shawn]

Telling someone to relax is impolite and unhelpful

[567gh]

On Wed, 24 Aug 2022 16:02:17 +1000, Shawn

Telling someone to relax is impolite and unhelpful.

Bullshit, and you are too late after 15 years anyway, stupid.

[Peeler]

On Wed, 24 Aug 2022 16:17:09 +1000, 567gh, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

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[HeyBub]

Post by Buck Turgidson
Unfortunately, the city I live in allows basketball hoops in
driveways. What's further unfortunate is my neighbor's 4 kids are
constantly playing outside my and my children's BR window. Sometimes
each with their own basketball.
I've called their parents twice when it was time for our young kids'
bedtime. He was cooperative about it. But the constant thumping of a
basketball gets old during the day, too. Occasionally, other their
little friends will come over for practice, too.
I don't want to deprive their kids of their fun, but at the same
time, I am entitled to the quiet enjoyment of my property.
Do I have any recourse? I am not optomistic that I do.

An outside speaker. With Mozart. Drives them nuts.

[Goedjn]

Post by HeyBub

Post by Buck Turgidson
Unfortunately, the city I live in allows basketball hoops in
driveways. What's further unfortunate is my neighbor's 4 kids are
constantly playing outside my and my children's BR window. Sometimes
each with their own basketball.
I've called their parents twice when it was time for our young kids'
bedtime. He was cooperative about it. But the constant thumping of a
basketball gets old during the day, too. Occasionally, other their
little friends will come over for practice, too.
I don't want to deprive their kids of their fun, but at the same
time, I am entitled to the quiet enjoyment of my property.
Do I have any recourse? I am not optomistic that I do.

An outside speaker. With Mozart. Drives them nuts.

White noise generator, and/or soundproofing. Basketballs
bouncing are well within the noise level you ought to be
able/willing to tolerate in the daytime. Is this a new
situation for you? (Either you just moved, or the neighbors
did?) I expect that you'll get used to it fairly quickly,
once you stop fighting it. People get used to
train tracks and fire stations, after all.

[HeyBub]

Post by Goedjn

Post by HeyBub

Post by Buck Turgidson
Do I have any recourse? I am not optomistic that I do.

An outside speaker. With Mozart. Drives them nuts.

White noise generator, and/or soundproofing. Basketballs
bouncing are well within the noise level you ought to be
able/willing to tolerate in the daytime. Is this a new
situation for you? (Either you just moved, or the neighbors
did?) I expect that you'll get used to it fairly quickly,
once you stop fighting it. People get used to
train tracks and fire stations, after all.

You don't get used to basketballs bouncing. Trust me.

Noise generators and soundproofing deal with the symptom (as do earplugs
which, at fifty cents, are a better deal than almost any other "symptom
solution").

There are various ways to deal with the problem; my suggestion of Mozart was
only one. but one that has proven remarkably effective at Stop-N-Robs.
There's another device, a high-pitched noise maker that produces a shrill
tone adults can't hear but that teens (and younger) find very annoying.

Firearms come to mind.

You might find a ball that doesn't make noise when it bounces - maybe one
made of sponge rubber. Perhaps there's a coating for the driveway.

Then, too, there's firearms.

[Buck Turgidson]

Post by HeyBub
Then, too, there's firearms.

My city is funny about firearms. They allow basketball hoops, but not
discharing firearms. Go figure...

[HeyBub]

Post by Buck Turgidson

Post by HeyBub
Then, too, there's firearms.

My city is funny about firearms. They allow basketball hoops, but not
discharing firearms. Go figure...

So, pay the piddly $100 fine. Cheap compared to some alternatives.

Besides, they have to convict you.

You can claim exigent circumstances:

1. You had reason to believe and did believe you were being attacked by
terrorist squirrels who wanted to force you to work in their secret
underground nut mines.

2. You acted only to prevent the imment commission of rape, aggravated rape,
robbery, aggravated robbery, kidnapping, murder, manslaughter, or treason.

3. You felt your life was in jeopardy and acted in self-defense.

4. Voices in your head compelled you to destroy the alien ball before it
grew sufficiently to smother the earth. In your view, you should get a
ticker-tape parade not a municipal ticket.

[mm]

Post by HeyBub
You don't get used to basketballs bouncing. Trust me.

This is a personal thing. It's not about trust. You may not be able
to get used to it, but many/most/or everyone but you :) will.

I used to live next door to Teen Challenge, a heroin addiction place
immortalized in _The Cross and the Switchblade_, a book and a movie
starring Pat Boone.

They had a basketball court right by my window. I thought I knew the
apartment and hadn't looked out the window before I rented the
apartment and was really angry at myself when I saw it. But it didn't
take too long to get used to the guys playing.

[HeyBub]

Post by mm
They had a basketball court right by my window. I thought I knew the
apartment and hadn't looked out the window before I rented the
apartment and was really angry at myself when I saw it. But it didn't
take too long to get used to the guys playing.

Especially if you're on the nod.

[mm]

Post by HeyBub

Post by mm
They had a basketball court right by my window. I thought I knew the
apartment and hadn't looked out the window before I rented the
apartment and was really angry at myself when I saw it. But it didn't
take too long to get used to the guys playing.

Especially if you're on the nod.

:-) None of us were. Certainly not me. They had a pretty high
success rate. I would see them walking from the original building, a
very big home from the early 1900's, to their new building for meals.
It was the 70's and t-shirts were common but not for them. They had
to wear button down sport shirts and chinos.

[Goedjn]

Post by mm

Post by HeyBub
You don't get used to basketballs bouncing. Trust me.

This is a personal thing. It's not about trust. You may not be able
to get used to it, but many/most/or everyone but you :) will.
I used to live next door to Teen Challenge, a heroin addiction place
immortalized in _The Cross and the Switchblade_, a book and a movie
starring Pat Boone.
They had a basketball court right by my window. I thought I knew the
apartment and hadn't looked out the window before I rented the
apartment and was really angry at myself when I saw it. But it didn't
take too long to get used to the guys playing.

It is PURELY psychological. Once you convince your hindbrain
that it's normal environmental noise, you'll have to concentrate
to hear it. This is one of the few situations where I think
a session with a hypnotherapist would probably be useful.

[Shawn]

I disagree that “most” people get used to basketball noise. And no, not everyone can ignore it. The problem is the noise itself, not the listener. Basketball thumps are a particularly irritating sound, like a water torture. Some people can’t even go to basketball games (not a problem for me, luckily). People who aren’t affected by noise don’t need to tell people to get over it. If you don’t have noise issues, you’ll never understand

[Banty]

Post by HeyBub

Post by Goedjn

Post by HeyBub

Post by Buck Turgidson
Do I have any recourse? I am not optomistic that I do.

An outside speaker. With Mozart. Drives them nuts.

White noise generator, and/or soundproofing. Basketballs
bouncing are well within the noise level you ought to be
able/willing to tolerate in the daytime. Is this a new
situation for you? (Either you just moved, or the neighbors
did?) I expect that you'll get used to it fairly quickly,
once you stop fighting it. People get used to
train tracks and fire stations, after all.

You don't get used to basketballs bouncing. Trust me.
Noise generators and soundproofing deal with the symptom (as do earplugs
which, at fifty cents, are a better deal than almost any other "symptom
solution").
There are various ways to deal with the problem; my suggestion of Mozart was
only one. but one that has proven remarkably effective at Stop-N-Robs.
There's another device, a high-pitched noise maker that produces a shrill
tone adults can't hear but that teens (and younger) find very annoying.
Firearms come to mind.
You might find a ball that doesn't make noise when it bounces - maybe one
made of sponge rubber. Perhaps there's a coating for the driveway.
Then, too, there's firearms.

So what _exactly_ would you have the neighbors do? Not use their driveway to
shoot hoops?? What else can't they do? Is it OK if they mow their lawn?

This is well within what most neighborhoods consider reasonable and tolerable.
People reasonably expect to play outdoor games on their property, and there's no
way to play basketball without doing some balls bouncing. There should be hours
when it doesn't happen, yes.

If he were to take your advice, he might well find out what *he* does that bugs
the neighbors, but that they had been tolerating up to now in order to be
neighborly.

You guys need to take it easy.

Banty

[Manny]

Don't listen to Banty! It is considered ignorant when you move into a quiet neighborhood, put up a hoop, and have a bunch of kids with their own basketballs playing all day long, yelling and screaming! Ridiculous of Banty to even say anything because obviously he doesn't have to deal with this disturbance

[Shawn]

Again, people who aren’t sensitive to noise just don’t get it. It’s not OK to tell people just to relax. Mowing is acceptable because it’s time limited. Basketball noise can go on 16 hours a day in the summer. It’s very reasonable for a homeowner to ask a neighbor to limit hours. That’s called compromise. But noisy people never want to compromise with people who like peace and quiet

[Shutup]

The sound of a train is way less annoying than a fucking basketball shut the fuck u

[AJ]

Noise from bouncing a basketball on concrete IS NOT always well within the noise level someone should tolerate - far from it - same with noise from a barking dog. Noise laws in my area state that the amount of noise in your house from a neighbour's property must be reasonable, at all times, regardless of any windows and doors being open - i.e. best to consider them open if you plan on making noise.
If I cannot avoid an annoying noise (except the exceptions - e.g. lawn mower), that occur on a more or less daily basis, from a neighbour, by closing my front door and turning on something noisy (TV/music/etc, at a normal level) - it is too loud - so firstly, I complain to them - once and once only - i.e. so least I tried to keep the Police+/Council out of it - if they tell you to do something abnormal to drown out their noise (e.g. use earphones), or anything unhelpful, simply ignore it - they are proving themselves to be (part of) the problem, not the solution.
So, if that doesn't work (i.e. the noise continues), call the local Council and lodge a complaint [beware they may try to deflect you at first - see next paragraph] ... also try calling the Police on the emergency line while the noise is occurring, over and over again - be as annoying to the authorities as your neighbours are to you (or more!) - make them do their job! and yes, you shouldn't have to.
For ongoing issues, it helps to read through and become familiar with all relevant sections of local Law Acts and supporting documentation [e.g. from EPA] related to noise/sound - this stuff is possibly freely available online and easy to search through (as it is in my jurisdiction - searchable PDFs). Be prepared - know your rights. Remember - Noise can be an issue outside of prohibited hours (i.e. during the day), if unreasonable.
Problems are only ever properly resolved by addressing their root cause - in this case - BB being bouncing on concrete - OR possibly - real root cause - inconsiderate parents allowing their children to make too much noise by bouncing a BB on concrete while being too close to neighbouring properties/buildings, leading to noise issues for them.
Everyone's wellbeing should be the goal - especially the wellbeing of the more vulnerable - not just the wellbeing of the noise allowers+/makers, as it seems to be in this day and age.
If you want to bounce a proper BB on a hard surface, do it away from other people's homes - far away - or use a BB that doesn't make too much noise

[Shawn]

That would probably work. I just turn up the music in my house. But if I’m outside I have to wear noise canceling headphones most of the time due to a public basketball court over a block away. There’s only a huge parking lot between us and the sound really travels

[Marilyn Manson]

That would probably work. I just turn up the music in my house. But if I’m outside I have to wear noise canceling headphones most of the time due to a public basketball court over a block away. There’s only a huge parking lot between us and the sound really travels.

Move. I moved out of NYC 35 years ago because I hated the noise, the
traffic, the crowds. Was it easy? No. Did I make sacrifices? Yes. Was it
worth it? It was the best decision I ever made and my life is so much better
because of it.

I'm typing this on my deck and the only sounds I hear are crickets chirping,
other insect noises and the gurgling of the water feature in one of SWMBO's
many flower gardens. There's not a basketball thump
to be found anywhere.

[Bob F]

Post by Marilyn Manson

That would probably work. I just turn up the music in my house. But if I’m outside I have to wear noise canceling headphones most of the time due to a public basketball court over a block away. There’s only a huge parking lot between us and the sound really travels.

Move. I moved out of NYC 35 years ago because I hated the noise, the
traffic, the crowds. Was it easy? No. Did I make sacrifices? Yes. Was it
worth it? It was the best decision I ever made and my life is so much better
because of it.
I'm typing this on my deck and the only sounds I hear are crickets chirping,
other insect noises and the gurgling of the water feature in one of SWMBO's
many flower gardens. There's not a basketball thump
to be found anywhere.

Instead learning sportsmanship and developing their skills and just
having fun, the righties want the kids to be out learning to make a good
living mugging their neighbors.

[Xeno Chauvin]

Post by Buck Turgidson
Unfortunately, the city I live in allows basketball hoops in driveways.
What's further unfortunate is my neighbor's 4 kids are constantly playing
outside my and my children's BR window. Sometimes each with their own
basketball.

Doesn't your city have a noise ordinance after certain hours?
You might also try putting up a lattice screen with climbing plants
as a noise barrier in front of the windows or noise suppressing drapes
on the windows.
Xeno

[Edwin Pawlowski]

Post by Buck Turgidson
I've called their parents twice when it was time for our young kids'
bedtime. He was cooperative about it. But the constant thumping of a
basketball gets old during the day, too. Occasionally, other their little
friends will come over for practice, too.
I don't want to deprive their kids of their fun, but at the same time, I
am entitled to the quiet enjoyment of my property.

It is a lose-lose situation. Best approach is to have a beer with the
neighbor and discuss it openly. Perhaps a curfew at some time in the
evening or even a free hour at some time. Point out some time that you are
typically not home or do not care that the kids can enjoy themselves.

The best time to do this is when the kids are out playing. Invite the
neighbor over so he can hear the thump, thump thump. Yes, it can drive you
nuts at times. I had the same thing with my own kids and grandkids.

[Matt R Sullivan]

replying to Edwin Pawlowski, Matt R Sullivan wrote:
Great advice here.

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for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/basketball-noise-202830-.htm

[Uncle Monster]

Post by Matt R Sullivan
Great advice here.
--

You're too late! 10 years ago, Edwin was abducted by giant mutant gerbils from outer space. The mutant gerbils used Edwin's head as a basketball after they used him as a sex toy before eating him. It was a tragic loss for his family and friends. o_O

[8~{} Uncle Space Monster

[Stormin Mormon]

I don't have a good answer for you. But when I was a teen, we had
a yippy chihuahahaha dog on the one side, and a basketball addict
on the other side. I know of what you speak.... and in my present
adress, the kids next door used to have a low boom box radio and
strobe light and trampoline. That's a heck of a combination.
--
Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
.

"Buck Turgidson" <***@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:28EJh.2120$***@newsfe20.lga...
: Unfortunately, the city I live in allows basketball hoops in
driveways.
: What's further unfortunate is my neighbor's 4 kids are
constantly playing
: outside my and my children's BR window. Sometimes each with
their own
: basketball.
:
: I've called their parents twice when it was time for our young
kids'
: bedtime. He was cooperative about it. But the constant
thumping of a
: basketball gets old during the day, too. Occasionally, other
their little
: friends will come over for practice, too.
:
: I don't want to deprive their kids of their fun, but at the
same time, I am
: entitled to the quiet enjoyment of my property.
:
: Do I have any recourse? I am not optomistic that I do.
:
:

[k]

Post by Buck Turgidson
Unfortunately, the city I live in allows basketball hoops in driveways.
What's further unfortunate is my neighbor's 4 kids are constantly playing
outside my and my children's BR window. Sometimes each with their own
basketball.
I've called their parents twice when it was time for our young kids'
bedtime. He was cooperative about it. But the constant thumping of a
basketball gets old during the day, too. Occasionally, other their little
friends will come over for practice, too.
I don't want to deprive their kids of their fun, but at the same time, I
am entitled to the quiet enjoyment of my property.
Do I have any recourse? I am not optomistic that I do.

I would say grin and bear it. I take it your kids are little. If the
basketball actually disturbs their sleep, it's fair to ask your neighbor for
a curfew of some sort.

On the other hand, the noises kids make, having fun while doing something
healthy, should become soothing when they tell you that you chose a great
neighborhood to raise your own kids in.

Oh yes, your little ones will discover the joy of being loud.

Keith

[Wayne Boatwright]

replying to Buck Turgidson, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
When I lived in a gated community with a homeowner's association, cars/trucks
had to be parked in the garage, not in the driveway or in the street.
Visitors or repair vehicles could park in the driveway for a limited number of
hours.. Overflow permanent parking was only allowed in an adjacent private
parking lot that was shielded from the houses.
all homes had either two or three car garages. There should been no need for
excessive numbers of vehicles in front of the house. No permanently mounted
basketball hoops were allowed. Portable hoops had to be parked on the back
patio, out of sight and generally out of hearing range from other homes. I
don't mind following rules as long as everyone else does.

There was a semi-private playground less than a block from the three
cul-de-sacs of homes. Plenty of places for kids of most ages to play.

Believe me when I say that I read the by-laws word for word. I don't tolerate
infractions lightly.

[catalpa]

Post by Wayne Boatwright
When I lived in a gated community with a homeowner's association,
cars/trucks
had to be parked in the garage, not in the driveway or in the street.
Visitors or repair vehicles could park in the driveway for a limited number of
hours.. Overflow permanent parking was only allowed in an adjacent private
parking lot that was shielded from the houses. all homes had either two
or three car garages. There should been no need for
excessive numbers of vehicles in front of the house. No permanently mounted
basketball hoops were allowed. Portable hoops had to be parked on the back
patio, out of sight and generally out of hearing range from other homes.
I
don't mind following rules as long as everyone else does.
There was a semi-private playground less than a block from the three
cul-de-sacs of homes. Plenty of places for kids of most ages to play.
Believe me when I say that I read the by-laws word for word. I don't tolerate
infractions lightly.
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for full context, visit
https://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/basketball-noise-202830-.htm

"I don't tolerate infractions lightly."

Really? You have no problem being clueless and replying to an 11 year old
post by a jokester.

[Kate Riviello]

The noise (decibels) of the thump of the basketball and against the board is very very loud and also could constitute infrasound (like the booming of a car stereo - unable to be recorded and must be measured by an infrasound machine - not a decibel machine). Infrasound is something you FEEL not just hear. Basketball noise is EXTREMELY annoying. Check out noisefree dot org for ideas about how to change legislation. One could file a lawsuit to pass a law that basketball should be played at the park where high fences for safety and soft ground removes the loud thump. If it stayed legal as a compromise the hours should be outlined and certainly not evening hours at all

[Anchor]

I’m in a similar situation and also looking for answers. Unfortunately I work from home and must use a voice to text software due to an injury and being unable to type. They recently moved in and have children that play basketball for 6+ hours a day on school breaks. This is not an exaggeration. Every time the ball bounces, the software types “will.” If I don’t find a solution, I will lose my job this summer.

[Dean Hoffman]

Post by Anchor
I’m in a similar situation and also looking for answers. Unfortunately I work from home and must use a voice to text software due to an injury and being unable to type. They recently moved in and have children that play basketball for 6+ hours a day on school breaks. This is not an exaggeration. Every time the ball bounces, the software types “will.” If I don’t find a solution, I will lose my job this summer.
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For full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/basketball-noise-202830-.html

Try sci.electronics.design for an answer.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Post by Anchor
I’m in a similar situation and also looking for answers. Unfortunately I
work from home and must use a voice to text software due to an injury
and being unable to type. They recently moved in and have children that
play basketball for 6+ hours a day on school breaks. This is not an
exaggeration. Every time the ball bounces, the software types “will.” If
I don’t find a solution, I will lose my job this summer.

Wow, that sucks. Can you move the computer? Even something like
changing the orientation of the mic may help.

How about a window shade? Even better could be a sheet of foam board on
the window when they are playing.

[rbowman]

Post by Ed Pawlowski

Post by Anchor
I’m in a similar situation and also looking for answers. Unfortunately
I work from home and must use a voice to text software due to an injury
and being unable to type. They recently moved in and have children that
play basketball for 6+ hours a day on school breaks. This is not an
exaggeration. Every time the ball bounces, the software types “will.”
If I don’t find a solution, I will lose my job this summer.

Wow, that sucks. Can you move the computer? Even something like
changing the orientation of the mic may help.
How about a window shade? Even better could be a sheet of foam board on
the window when they are playing.

You just don't have the proper red state spirit. Shoot the goddam thing.

[Peeler]

On 7 Mar 2023 03:45:31 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,

Post by rbowman

Post by Ed Pawlowski
Wow, that sucks. Can you move the computer? Even something like
changing the orientation of the mic may help.
How about a window shade? Even better could be a sheet of foam board on
the window when they are playing.

You just don't have the proper red state spirit. Shoot the goddam thing.

That might well be the one and only solution to stop your big mouth. But, as
I said already, I'm afraid your mouth got a life of its own, might survive
and continue blathering automatically and idiotically in its known
grandiloquent self-admiring bragging style. <G>