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Noisy water valve
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VidBex
2013-11-07 16:53:26 UTC
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In our garage there is a cold water supply valve for our house. Whenever we
run water in the house, flush a toilet, or run the washingmachine, the
valve makes a loud pumping noise (whoosh-whoosh-whoosh) that is audible
inside the house.

What causes this? Is it a defective valve? Can it be fixed?

Thanks for any help.
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VidBex
Oren
2013-11-07 17:07:59 UTC
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Post by VidBex
In our garage there is a cold water supply valve for our house. Whenever we
run water in the house, flush a toilet, or run the washingmachine, the
valve makes a loud pumping noise (whoosh-whoosh-whoosh) that is audible
inside the house.
What causes this? Is it a defective valve? Can it be fixed?
Thanks for any help.
You may be better replies by posting the brand name of the valve and
any information on the valve.
willshak
2013-11-07 18:12:49 UTC
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Post by Oren
Post by VidBex
In our garage there is a cold water supply valve for our house. Whenever we
run water in the house, flush a toilet, or run the washingmachine, the
valve makes a loud pumping noise (whoosh-whoosh-whoosh) that is audible
inside the house.
What causes this? Is it a defective valve? Can it be fixed?
Thanks for any help.
You may be better replies by posting the brand name of the valve and
any information on the valve.
and whether city water or well water.
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VidBex
2013-11-07 18:32:49 UTC
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Post by Oren
Post by VidBex
In our garage there is a cold water supply valve for our house.
Whenever we run water in the house, flush a toilet, or run the
washingmachine, the valve makes a loud pumping noise
(whoosh-whoosh-whoosh) <trimmed>
You may be better replies by posting the brand name of the valve and
any information on the valve.
It is a WATTS Regulator/A.S.S.E. 1003/ N35B/Size 3/4/ Model DV/ Set: STD.
??/ Range 25-75/ Max. 400 PSI-180 F. The regulator is situatated about 8"
above the water intake valve for the house.
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VidBex
jamesgang
2013-11-07 18:43:24 UTC
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Post by VidBex
Post by Oren
Post by VidBex
In our garage there is a cold water supply valve for our house.
Whenever we run water in the house, flush a toilet, or run the
washingmachine, the valve makes a loud pumping noise
(whoosh-whoosh-whoosh) <trimmed>
You may be better replies by posting the brand name of the valve and
any information on the valve.
It is a WATTS Regulator/A.S.S.E. 1003/ N35B/Size 3/4/ Model DV/ Set: STD.
??/ Range 25-75/ Max. 400 PSI-180 F. The regulator is situatated about 8"
above the water intake valve for the house.
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VidBex
So it's the pressure regulator that making the noise? Not a open/close valve?

I'd guess it's cycling to adjust the pressure. If it's a new noise then maybe you should look for a rebuild kit for it.
DerbyDad03
2013-11-08 00:14:54 UTC
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Post by jamesgang
Post by VidBex
Post by Oren
Post by VidBex
In our garage there is a cold water supply valve for our house.
Whenever we run water in the house, flush a toilet, or run the
washingmachine, the valve makes a loud pumping noise
(whoosh-whoosh-whoosh) <trimmed>
You may be better replies by posting the brand name of the valve and
any information on the valve.
It is a WATTS Regulator/A.S.S.E. 1003/ N35B/Size 3/4/ Model DV/ Set: STD.
??/ Range 25-75/ Max. 400 PSI-180 F. The regulator is situatated about 8"
above the water intake valve for the house.
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VidBex
So it's the pressure regulator that making the noise? Not a open/close valve?
I'd guess it's cycling to adjust the pressure. If it's a new noise then
maybe you should look for a rebuild kit for it.
In my limited experience, it was easier to just replace my PRV with a new
one than rebuild the old one. The price difference was something like $40
vs. $60, kit vs. new valve. No warranty on the rebuild, no guarantee that
the rebuild would even work.

Hardest part was adding the access panel to the basement ceiling after
cutting the drywall out to get to the old valve. I made a sliding access
panel since there is no room to lift it up. Came out pretty nice.
Stormin Mormon
2013-11-07 22:08:05 UTC
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Post by VidBex
It is a WATTS Regulator/A.S.S.E. 1003/ N35B/Size 3/4/ Model DV/ Set: STD.
??/ Range 25-75/ Max. 400 PSI-180 F. The regulator is situatated about 8"
above the water intake valve for the house.
Oh, man. Riots.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watts_Riots
Careful, might try and burn your house down.
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VidBex
2013-11-07 18:41:50 UTC
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Post by Oren
Post by VidBex
In our garage there is a cold water supply valve for our house.
Whenever we run water in the house, flush a toilet, or run the
washingmachine, the valve makes a loud pumping noise
(whoosh-whoosh-whoosh) <trimmed>
You may be better replies by posting the brand name of the valve and
any information on the valve.
It is a WATTS Regular. Specs. are A.S.S.E 1003/N35B/ SIZE: 3/4 /MODEL:
DV/SET: STD. ??/ RANGE 25-75/ Max. 400 PSI-180 F.
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VidBex
DanG
2013-11-09 19:55:47 UTC
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Post by VidBex
Post by Oren
Post by VidBex
In our garage there is a cold water supply valve for our house.
Whenever we run water in the house, flush a toilet, or run the
washingmachine, the valve makes a loud pumping noise
(whoosh-whoosh-whoosh) <trimmed>
You may be better replies by posting the brand name of the valve and
any information on the valve.
DV/SET: STD. ??/ RANGE 25-75/ Max. 400 PSI-180 F.
It is not a water valve. It is a pressure regulator. Evidently your
water supply has high pressure that can cause extreme wear on valves,
faucets, etc. The Watts regulator controls the supply pressure. YOu
might try changing the pressure setting to see if it helps on the noise
problem. I would not run the supply pressure over 50-55 lbs, 30 would
probably be a minimum.
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VidBex
2013-11-07 18:43:29 UTC
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Post by Oren
Post by VidBex
In our garage there is a cold water supply valve for our house.
Whenever we run water in the house, flush a toilet, or run the
washingmachine, the valve makes a loud pumping noise
(whoosh-whoosh-whoosh) that is audible inside the house.
What causes this? Is it a defective valve? Can it be fixed?
Thanks for any help.
You may be better replies by posting the brand name of the valve and
any information on the valve.
It is a WATTS Regular. Specs. are A.S.S.E 1003/N35B/ SIZE: 3/4 /MODEL:
DV/SET: STD. ??/ RANGE 25-75/ Max. 400 PSI-180 F.
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VidBex
Oren
2013-11-07 19:07:39 UTC
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Post by VidBex
Post by Oren
Post by VidBex
In our garage there is a cold water supply valve for our house.
Whenever we run water in the house, flush a toilet, or run the
washingmachine, the valve makes a loud pumping noise
(whoosh-whoosh-whoosh) that is audible inside the house.
What causes this? Is it a defective valve? Can it be fixed?
Thanks for any help.
You may be better replies by posting the brand name of the valve and
any information on the valve.
DV/SET: STD. ??/ RANGE 25-75/ Max. 400 PSI-180 F.
Checked Watts <got this>

N35B

Water Pressure Reducing Valves

Sizes: 1/2 to 1 in. (15 to 25mm)

OBSOLETE PRODUCT

Replacement Product: N/A

Looks there are still repair kits from them.

Repair Kit N35B-RK 3/4" 0006849 diaphragm, O-ring (3) , bypass ball
and disc

Repair Kit N35B-S-RK 3/4" 0006804 O-ring (2), seat

<http://www.watts.com/pages/_products_details.asp?pid=5251>

BTW, has there been any repairs on the main water lines by your water
utility. The valve may have sand or a pebble stuff inside...

Turn off the water (main street) supply, before attempts to work on
it.
nestork
2013-11-07 17:57:54 UTC
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Post by VidBex
In our garage there is a cold water supply valve for our house. Wheneve
we
run water in the house, flush a toilet, or run the washingmachine, the
valve makes a loud pumping noise (whoosh-whoosh-whoosh) that is audibl
inside the house.
What causes this? Is it a defective valve? Can it be fixed?
Thanks for any help.
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VidBex
If it's a globe valve, I would say that the problem is that the scre
holding the disk in place is loose and the disk is moving back and fort
on the screw


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nestork
Ed Pawlowski
2013-11-07 18:43:05 UTC
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Post by VidBex
In our garage there is a cold water supply valve for our house. Whenever we
run water in the house, flush a toilet, or run the washingmachine, the
valve makes a loud pumping noise (whoosh-whoosh-whoosh) that is audible
inside the house.
What causes this? Is it a defective valve? Can it be fixed?
Thanks for any help.
Sometimes the interior washer gets worn and can make loud sounds like
that. Can't say for sure not knowing if it is a globe valve ball valve
or gate valve.
VidBex
2013-11-07 18:54:44 UTC
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Post by Ed Pawlowski
Post by VidBex
In our garage there is a cold water supply valve for our house.
Whenever we run water in the house, flush a toilet, or run the
washingmachine, the valve makes a loud pumping noise
(whoosh-whoosh-whoosh) <trimmed>
Sometimes the interior washer gets worn and can make loud sounds like
that. Can't say for sure not knowing if it is a globe valve ball
valve or gate valve.
Here is a webpage for the regulator:
http://www.flwleightonstone.com/watts/regn35b.html
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VidBex
TomR
2013-11-07 19:14:48 UTC
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Post by VidBex
Post by Ed Pawlowski
Post by VidBex
In our garage there is a cold water supply valve for our house.
Whenever we run water in the house, flush a toilet, or run the
washingmachine, the valve makes a loud pumping noise
(whoosh-whoosh-whoosh) <trimmed>
Sometimes the interior washer gets worn and can make loud sounds like
that. Can't say for sure not knowing if it is a globe valve ball
valve or gate valve.
http://www.flwleightonstone.com/watts/regn35b.html
The Watts website says that the N35B is a discontinued model.

Seems like just switching out the existing valve with a new one would be the
easiest option.
Scott Lurndal
2013-11-07 19:36:01 UTC
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Post by TomR
Post by VidBex
Post by Ed Pawlowski
Post by VidBex
In our garage there is a cold water supply valve for our house.
Whenever we run water in the house, flush a toilet, or run the
washingmachine, the valve makes a loud pumping noise
(whoosh-whoosh-whoosh) <trimmed>
Sometimes the interior washer gets worn and can make loud sounds like
that. Can't say for sure not knowing if it is a globe valve ball
valve or gate valve.
http://www.flwleightonstone.com/watts/regn35b.html
The Watts website says that the N35B is a discontinued model.
Seems like just switching out the existing valve with a new one would be the
easiest option.
The valve has a removable stainless steel screen internally. I suspect that
either sediment has blocked part of the screen, or it has grown some
scale from hard water. With the supply turned off, remove the screen (from the
bottom of the valve), clean it and replace it. Carefully. The scale can
be removed by soaking in vinegar.
Oren
2013-11-07 20:34:47 UTC
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Post by Scott Lurndal
The valve has a removable stainless steel screen internally. I suspect that
either sediment has blocked part of the screen, or it has grown some
scale from hard water. With the supply turned off, remove the screen (from the
bottom of the valve), clean it and replace it. Carefully. The scale can
be removed by soaking in vinegar.
Agree.

... I've tapped the side of a valve before (screwdriver handle). It
may just silence to sound the OP hears - if something is blocking the
operation.

<KISS principle>
Oren
2013-11-07 21:03:24 UTC
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Post by TomR
Post by VidBex
http://www.flwleightonstone.com/watts/regn35b.html
The Watts website says that the N35B is a discontinued model.
True. There are still repair kits for the unit.
Post by TomR
Seems like just switching out the existing valve with a new one would be the
easiest option.
IMO, the diaphragm in the valve is worn and brittle...

Needs some TLC on the valve.
John Grabowski
2013-11-07 19:37:18 UTC
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Post by VidBex
Post by Ed Pawlowski
Post by VidBex
In our garage there is a cold water supply valve for our house.
Whenever we run water in the house, flush a toilet, or run the
washingmachine, the valve makes a loud pumping noise
(whoosh-whoosh-whoosh) <trimmed>
Sometimes the interior washer gets worn and can make loud sounds like
that. Can't say for sure not knowing if it is a globe valve ball
valve or gate valve.
http://www.flwleightonstone.com/watts/regn35b.html
*Here's a link to the customer service page with email and phone number.
This unit has replaceable parts without removing the regulator. They
probably have a repair kit available.

http://www.flwleightonstone.com/about.html
Ed Pawlowski
2013-11-07 20:53:00 UTC
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Post by VidBex
Post by Ed Pawlowski
Post by VidBex
In our garage there is a cold water supply valve for our house.
Whenever we run water in the house, flush a toilet, or run the
washingmachine, the valve makes a loud pumping noise
(whoosh-whoosh-whoosh) <trimmed>
Sometimes the interior washer gets worn and can make loud sounds like
that. Can't say for sure not knowing if it is a globe valve ball
valve or gate valve.
http://www.flwleightonstone.com/watts/regn35b.html
OK, this is easy then. If you don't know the difference between a valve
and regulator, it is best to call a plumber. They are fairly cheap and
esily replaced.
VidBex
2013-11-07 21:06:59 UTC
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Post by Ed Pawlowski
Post by VidBex
Post by Ed Pawlowski
Post by VidBex
In our garage there is a cold water supply valve for our house.
Whenever we run water in the house, flush a toilet, or run the
washingmachine, the valve makes a loud pumping noise
<trimmed>
Sometimes the interior washer gets worn and can make loud sounds like
that. Can't say for sure not knowing if it is a globe valve ball
valve or gate valve.
http://www.flwleightonstone.com/watts/regn35b.html
OK, this is easy then. If you don't know the difference between a valve
and regulator, it is best to call a plumber. They are fairly cheap and
esily replaced.
Thanks to all for your many recommendations.
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VidBex
Oren
2013-11-07 21:19:23 UTC
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Post by VidBex
Thanks to all for your many recommendations.
Come back and tell us what you did to fix it.
Oren
2013-11-07 21:09:10 UTC
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Post by Ed Pawlowski
Post by VidBex
http://www.flwleightonstone.com/watts/regn35b.html
OK, this is easy then. If you don't know the difference between a valve
and regulator, it is best to call a plumber.
Doesn't the OP have a "regulator valve"?
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C***@work.com
2013-11-08 10:06:20 UTC
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Post by Ed Pawlowski
Post by VidBex
Post by Ed Pawlowski
Post by VidBex
In our garage there is a cold water supply valve for our house.
Whenever we run water in the house, flush a toilet, or run the
washingmachine, the valve makes a loud pumping noise
(whoosh-whoosh-whoosh) <trimmed>
Sometimes the interior washer gets worn and can make loud sounds like
that. Can't say for sure not knowing if it is a globe valve ball
valve or gate valve.
http://www.flwleightonstone.com/watts/regn35b.html
OK, this is easy then. If you don't know the difference between a valve
and regulator, it is best to call a plumber. They are fairly cheap and
esily replaced.
Plumbers are not fairly cheap, most are expensive. But they might be
easily replaced as long as there are other plumbers in the area.
micky
2013-11-07 23:20:27 UTC
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Post by VidBex
In our garage there is a cold water supply valve for our house. Whenever we
run water in the house, flush a toilet, or run the washingmachine, the
valve makes a loud pumping noise (whoosh-whoosh-whoosh) that is audible
inside the house.
What causes this? Is it a defective valve? Can it be fixed?
I think you hae a doo-wop band rehearsing in your garage.
Post by VidBex
Thanks for any help.
VidBex
2013-11-08 01:53:34 UTC
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Post by micky
Post by VidBex
In our garage there is a cold water supply valve for our house.
Whenever we run water in the house, flush a toilet, or run the
washingmachine, the valve makes a loud pumping noise
(whoosh-whoosh-whoosh) that is audible inside the house.
What causes this? Is it a defective valve? Can it be fixed?
I think you hae a doo-wop band rehearsing in your garage.
Post by VidBex
Thanks for any help.
Most likely.
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VidBex
h***@sbcglobal.net
2013-11-09 20:13:55 UTC
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No one has mentioned what I think is obvious. Contact your municipal water supply source!!
TomR
2013-11-09 21:35:13 UTC
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Post by h***@sbcglobal.net
Post by VidBex
In our garage there is a cold water supply valve for our house. Whenever we
run water in the house, flush a toilet, or run the washingmachine, the
valve makes a loud pumping noise (whoosh-whoosh-whoosh) that is audible
inside the house.
What causes this? Is it a defective valve? Can it be fixed?
No one has mentioned what I think is obvious. Contact your municipal water supply source!!
Why? What am I missing here? Why should he contact his municipal water
supply source?

(Also, it helps if you quote at least some of the original post to give your
post some context. I did that for you in my reply here.)
DerbyDad03
2013-11-09 22:27:29 UTC
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Post by TomR
Post by h***@sbcglobal.net
Post by VidBex
In our garage there is a cold water supply valve for our house. Whenever we
run water in the house, flush a toilet, or run the washingmachine, the
valve makes a loud pumping noise (whoosh-whoosh-whoosh) that is audible
inside the house.
What causes this? Is it a defective valve? Can it be fixed?
No one has mentioned what I think is obvious. Contact your municipal
water supply source!!
Why? What am I missing here? Why should he contact his municipal water
supply source?
Well, it can't hurt.

We had a thumping in our pipes which I thought was water hammer, except
that it happened whenever we turned off any fixture. It was more of a soft,
tapering thump...thump...thump as opposed to a loud bang. Before I had a
chance to work on it, a few of the neighbors were hanging around and when I
brought up the thumping, a couple of them said "Me, too!"

The next day I called the Water Authority, They said that they were aware
of the problem and that the water main was scheduled to be replaced in
about a month. They suggested we wait until the work was done before we
tried to eliminate the thumping on our own. The day the water main was
replaced, the thumping stopped.

I never inquired as to the root cause, but everybody's thumping stopped as
soon as the Water Authority's work was done.

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