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2024-10-01 15:15:43 UTC
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Trump starts GoFundMe, Doesn't donate, expects you to pony up.

He'll probably keep the money for himself.

Trump makes false claims about federal response as he campaigns in area
ravaged by Hurricane Helene


ALDOSTA, Ga. -

Donald Trump repeatedly spread falsehoods Monday about the federal response
to Hurricane Helene despite claiming not to be politicizing the disaster as
he toured hard-hit areas in south Georgia.

The former president and Republican nominee claimed upon landing in
Valdosta that President Joe Biden was "sleeping" and not responding to
Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp, who he said was "calling the president and hasn't
been able to get him." He repeated the claim at an event with reporters
after being told Kemp said he had spoken to Biden.

"He's lying, and the governor told him he was lying," Biden said Monday.


The White House previously announced that Biden spoke by phone Sunday night
with Kemp and North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper, as well as Scott Matheson,
mayor of Valdosta, Georgia, and Florida Emergency Management Director John
Louk. Kemp confirmed Monday morning that he spoke to Biden the night
before.

"The president just called me yesterday afternoon and I missed him and
called him right back and he just said `Hey, what do you need?' And I told
him, you know, we've got what we need, we'll work through the federal
process," Kemp said. "He offered if there are other things we need just to
call him directly, which I appreciate that."

In addition to being humanitarian crises, natural disasters can create
political tests for elected officials, particularly in the closing weeks of
a presidential campaign in which among the hardest-hit states were North
Carolina and Georgia, two battlegrounds. Trump over the last several days
has used the damage wrought by Helene to attack Harris, the Democratic
nominee, and suggest she and Biden are playing politics with the storm --
something he was accused of doing when president.

Biden is defiant about spending time at his beach house

While the White House highlighted Biden's call to Kemp and others, the
president faced questions about his decision to spend the weekend at his
beach house in Delaware, rather than the White House, to monitor the storm.

"I was commanding it," Biden told reporters after delivering remarks at the
White House on the federal government's response. "I was on the phone for
at least two hours yesterday and the day before as well. I commanded it.
It's called a telephone."

Biden received frequent updates on the storm, the White House said, as did
Harris aboard Air Force Two as she made a West Coast campaign swing. The
vice president cut short her campaign trip Monday to return to Washington
for a briefing from the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

Trump, writing on his social media platform Monday, also claimed without
evidence that the federal government and North Carolina's Democratic
governor were "going out of their way to not help people in Republican
areas." Asheville, which was devastated by the storm, is solidly
Democratic, as is much of Buncombe County, which surrounds it.

The death toll from Helene has surpassed 100 people, with some of the worst
damage caused by inland flooding in North Carolina.

Biden said he will travel to North Carolina on Wednesday to get a first-
hand look at the devastation, but will limit his footprint so as not to
distract from the ongoing recovery efforts.

During remarks Monday at FEMA headquarters, Harris said she has received
regular briefings on the disaster response, including from FEMA
Administrator Deanne Criswell, and has spoken with Kemp and Cooper in the
last 24 hours.

"I have shared with them that we will do everything in our power to help
communities respond and recover," she said. "And I've shared with them that
I plan to be on the ground as soon as possible without disrupting any
emergency response operations."

When asked if her visit was politicizing the storm, she frowned and shook
her head but did not reply.

Trump partnered with a Christian charity to bring supplies

The Trump campaign partnered with the Christian humanitarian aid
organization Samaritan's Purse to bring trucks of fuel, food, water and
other critical supplies to Georgia, said Karoline Leavitt, the Trump
campaign's national press secretary.

Leavitt did not immediately respond to questions about how much had been
donated and from which entity. Samaritan's Purse also declined to address
the matter in a statement.

Trump also launched a GoFundMe campaign for supporters to send financial
aid to people impacted by the storm. It quickly passed its $1 million goal
Monday night.

"Our hearts are with you and we are going to be with you as long as you
need it," Trump said, flanked by a group of elected officials and
Republican supporters.

"We're not talking about politics now," Trump added.

Trump said he wanted to stop in North Carolina but was holding off because
access and communication is limited in hard-hit communities.

When asked by The Associated Press on Monday if he was concerned that his
visit to Georgia was taking away law enforcement resources that could be
used for disaster response, Trump said, "No." He said his campaign instead
"brought many wagons of resources."

Katie Watson, who owns with her husband the home design store Trump
visited, said she was told the former president picked that location
because he saw shots of the business destroyed with the rubble and said,
"Find that place and find those people."





Trump campaign officials have long pointed to his visit to East Palestine,
Ohio, the site of a toxic trail derailment, as a turning point in the early
days of the presidential race when he was struggling to establish his
footing as a candidate. They believed his warm welcome by residents
frustrated by the federal government's response helped remind voters why
they had been drawn to him years earlier.

Trump fought with Puerto Rico and meteorologists while president

During Trump's term as president, he visited numerous disaster zones,
including the aftermaths of hurricanes, tornadoes and shootings. But the
trips sometimes elicited controversy such as when he tossed paper towels to
cheering residents in Puerto Rico in 2017 in the wake of Hurricane Maria.

It also took until weeks before the presidential election in 2020 for
Trump's administration to release $13 billion in assistance for the
territory. A federal government watchdog found that officials hampered an
investigation into delays in aid delivery.

In another 2019 incident, Trump administration officials admonished some
meteorologists for tweeting that Alabama was not threatened by Hurricane
Dorian, contradicting the then-president. Trump would famously display a
map altered with a black Sharpie pen to indicate Alabama could be in the
path of the storm.

Fernando reported from Chicago, and Amy reported from Atlanta. Associated
Press writers Jill Colvin in New York, Chris Megerian and Aamer Madhani in
Washington, and Will Weissert in Las Vegas contributed to this report.
citizen winston smith
2024-10-01 17:40:45 UTC
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Trump starts GoFundMe, Doesn't donate, expects you to pony up.
https://www.comingsoon.net/guides/news/1856898-donald-trump-donation-to-hurricane-helene-gofundme-raised

As Donald Trump steps into the spotlight with his new GoFundMe campaign
for Hurricane Helene victims, the move highlights his ongoing efforts to
engage his supporters directly. By personally touring the storm-ravaged
areas and launching a grassroots fundraising effort, Trump has
positioned himself as a champion of the communities affected by the
disaster. The former president’s donation to Hurricane Helene relief is
a significant part of this campaign.

Here’s a closer look at the strategy behind Trump’s campaign and how it
ties into his broader political narrative.

Donald Trump starts GoFundMe for Hurricane Helene
Donald Trump has launched a GoFundMe donation campaign to support those
affected by Hurricane Helene, which has caused widespread devastation in
the Southeastern US.

The fundraiser has already surpassed its $1 million goal, collecting
over $1.6 million from 8,800 donations. Notable contributors include
former US Senator Kelly Loeffler, who donated $500,000, and businesses
such as Bass Pro Shops, which pledged $100,000. Trump’s campaign
encourages his supporters to donate, assuring them that all funds will
go directly to help the hardest-hit communities.

Trump’s involvement goes beyond fundraising, as he visited the
storm-ravaged areas in Georgia, where he criticized the federal
government’s response. He reassured local communities of his support,
promising to remain involved as they recover. The fundraiser is part of
Trump’s broader outreach to the victims, positioning his efforts as a
grassroots solution led by his supporters.
T
2024-10-02 01:19:19 UTC
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Trump starts GoFundMe, Doesn't donate, expects you to pony up.
https://www.comingsoon.net/guides/news/1856898-donald-trump-donation-to-hurricane-helene-gofundme-raised
As Donald Trump steps into the spotlight with his new GoFundMe campaign
for Hurricane Helene victims, the move highlights his ongoing efforts to
engage his supporters directly. By personally touring the storm-ravaged
areas and launching a grassroots fundraising effort, Trump has
positioned himself as a champion of the communities affected by the
disaster. The former president’s donation to Hurricane Helene relief is
a significant part of this campaign.
Here’s a closer look at the strategy behind Trump’s campaign and how it
ties into his broader political narrative.
Donald Trump starts GoFundMe for Hurricane Helene
Donald Trump has launched a GoFundMe donation campaign to support those
affected by Hurricane Helene, which has caused widespread devastation in
the Southeastern US.
The fundraiser has already surpassed its $1 million goal, collecting
over $1.6 million from 8,800 donations. Notable contributors include
former US Senator Kelly Loeffler, who donated $500,000, and businesses
such as Bass Pro Shops, which pledged $100,000. Trump’s campaign
encourages his supporters to donate, assuring them that all funds will
go directly to help the hardest-hit communities.
Trump’s involvement goes beyond fundraising, as he visited the
storm-ravaged areas in Georgia, where he criticized the federal
government’s response. He reassured local communities of his support,
promising to remain involved as they recover. The fundraiser is part of
Trump’s broader outreach to the victims, positioning his efforts as a
grassroots solution led by his supporters.
Very well stated.

No fooling. The Left never does this. But what they resort to is
smearing anyone that does. This is the normals versus the weirdos.

Smearing seems to be all they have.
Baxter
2024-10-02 03:11:35 UTC
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Trump starts GoFundMe, Doesn't donate, expects you to pony up.
https://www.comingsoon.net/guides/news/1856898-donald-trump-donation-t
o-hurricane-helene-gofundme-raised
As Donald Trump steps into the spotlight with his new GoFundMe
campaign for Hurricane Helene victims, the move highlights his
ongoing efforts to engage his supporters directly. By personally
touring the storm-ravaged areas and launching a grassroots
fundraising effort, Trump has positioned himself as a champion of the
communities affected by the disaster. The former president’s
donation to Hurricane Helene relief is a significant part of this
campaign.
Here’s a closer look at the strategy behind Trump’s campaign and
how it ties into his broader political narrative.
Donald Trump starts GoFundMe for Hurricane Helene
Donald Trump has launched a GoFundMe donation campaign to support
those affected by Hurricane Helene, which has caused widespread
devastation in the Southeastern US.
The fundraiser has already surpassed its $1 million goal, collecting
over $1.6 million from 8,800 donations. Notable contributors include
former US Senator Kelly Loeffler, who donated $500,000, and
businesses such as Bass Pro Shops, which pledged $100,000. Trump’s
campaign encourages his supporters to donate, assuring them that all
funds will go directly to help the hardest-hit communities.
Trump’s involvement goes beyond fundraising, as he visited the
storm-ravaged areas in Georgia, where he criticized the federal
government’s response. He reassured local communities of his
support, promising to remain involved as they recover. The fundraiser
is part of Trump’s broader outreach to the victims, positioning his
efforts as a grassroots solution led by his supporters.
Very well stated.
No fooling. The Left never does this. But what they resort to is
smearing anyone that does. This is the normals versus the weirdos.
Smearing seems to be all they have.
FEMA is there, on the ground, bringing in the people needed to get
everything back up and running.

No GoFundMe is going to raise the Billion$ that FEMA is bringing in.

And, watch, tRump will try to steal that GoFundMe. If he was really a
billionaire, he could just start writing checks and forget the GoFundMe.
Baxter
2024-10-02 14:42:20 UTC
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Trump starts GoFundMe, Doesn't donate, expects you to pony up.
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o-hurricane-helene-gofundme-raised
As Donald Trump steps into the spotlight with his new GoFundMe
campaign for Hurricane Helene victims, the move highlights his
ongoing efforts to engage his supporters directly. By personally
touring the storm-ravaged areas and launching a grassroots
fundraising effort, Trump has positioned himself as a champion of the
communities affected by the disaster. The former president’s
donation to Hurricane Helene relief is a significant part of this
campaign.
Here’s a closer look at the strategy behind Trump’s campaign and
how it ties into his broader political narrative.
Donald Trump starts GoFundMe for Hurricane Helene
Donald Trump has launched a GoFundMe donation campaign to support
those affected by Hurricane Helene, which has caused widespread
devastation in the Southeastern US.
The fundraiser has already surpassed its $1 million goal, collecting
over $1.6 million from 8,800 donations. Notable contributors include
former US Senator Kelly Loeffler, who donated $500,000, and
businesses such as Bass Pro Shops, which pledged $100,000. Trump’s
campaign encourages his supporters to donate, assuring them that all
funds will go directly to help the hardest-hit communities.
Trump’s involvement goes beyond fundraising, as he visited the
storm-ravaged areas in Georgia, where he criticized the federal
government’s response. He reassured local communities of his
support, promising to remain involved as they recover. The
fundraiser
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is part of Trump’s broader outreach to the victims, positioning his
efforts as a grassroots solution led by his supporters.
Very well stated.
No fooling. The Left never does this. But what they resort to is
smearing anyone that does. This is the normals versus the weirdos.
Smearing seems to be all they have.
FEMA is there, on the ground, bringing in the people needed to get
everything back up and running.
FEMA is notorious for wasting money.
You conservaturds like to be in control, don't you. You want to be the
ones to say who gets money and how much. We saw that with tRump's
pandemic and many times after that. Now he starts a GoFundMe for
hurricane, but says he would withhold ALL aid to CA for wildfires.

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Trump makes false claims about federal response as he campaigns in area
ravaged by Hurricane Helene

https://www.kiro7.com/news/politics/trump-makes-
false/EZIIRBX2WZDHLKNY3TUHNSOHWU/
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Post by Baxter
No GoFundMe is going to raise the Billion$ that FEMA is bringing in.
Every little bit helps. And the money is voluntary. Not
extracted from other under the threat of imprisonment
and loss of property. It is Americans helping Americans.
It is society at its best.
With emphasis on the "little bit"
And in case you do not know what I am talking about (you are
obviously not an American Revolutionary, as I am), here
Society in every state is a blessing, but government even
in its best state is but a necessary evil. We have it in
our power to begin the world over again.
Some writers have so confounded society with government,
as to leave little or no distinction between them; whereas
they are not only different, but have different origins.
Society is produced by our wants, and government by our
wickedness; the former promotes our happiness POSITIVELY
by uniting our affections, the latter NEGATIVELY by
restraining our vices. The one encourages intercourse,
the other creates distinctions. The first a patron, the
last a punisher.
---Thomas_Paine, Common Sense (1776)
We're no longer a small agrarian society.
Post by Baxter
And, watch, tRump will try to steal that GoFundMe. If he was really a
billionaire, he could just start writing checks and forget the GoFundMe.
Wow, you have TDS something terrible.
Really?!! He's stolen everything else he's had a part in.
T
2024-10-03 01:15:45 UTC
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Wow, you have TDS something terrible.
Really?!! He's stolen everything else he's had a part in.
You've got TDS really, really bad.
Baxter
2024-10-03 02:52:41 UTC
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Wow, you have TDS something terrible.
Really?!! He's stolen everything else he's had a part in.
You've got TDS really, really bad.
If tRump was eating people's pets, you'd still vote for him. If he was
eating babies (his hero Hannibal Lector) you'd still vote for him.
T
2024-10-03 03:47:54 UTC
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Wow, you have TDS something terrible.
Really?!! He's stolen everything else he's had a part in.
You've got TDS really, really bad.
If tRump was eating people's pets, you'd still vote for him. If he was
eating babies (his hero Hannibal Lector) you'd still vote for him.
Wow. The TDS is even worse than I originally thought.

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2024-10-03 03:56:21 UTC
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Wow, you have TDS something terrible.
Really?!!  He's stolen everything else he's had a part in.
You've got TDS really, really bad.
If tRump  was eating people's pets, you'd still vote for him. If he was
eating babies (his hero Hannibal Lector) you'd still vote for him.
Wow.  The TDS is even worse than I originally thought.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/stg062524dAPC-800x0.jpg
I find it very amusing to think that Trump lives in their heads
24/7/365 . They are so consumed with their hatred that they are
oblivious to anything else . Wife , kids , job , all take second place
to their TDS . I'd pity them if they weren't so dangerous in their
single-minded zeal .
--
Snag
Voting for Kamabla after Biden
is like changing your shirt because
you shit your pants .
T
2024-10-03 06:39:06 UTC
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Wow, you have TDS something terrible.
Really?!!  He's stolen everything else he's had a part in.
You've got TDS really, really bad.
If tRump  was eating people's pets, you'd still vote for him. If he was
eating babies (his hero Hannibal Lector) you'd still vote for him.
Wow.  The TDS is even worse than I originally thought.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/stg062524dAPC-800x0.jpg
  I find it very amusing to think that Trump lives in their heads
24/7/365 . They are so consumed with their hatred that they are
oblivious to anything else . Wife , kids , job , all take second place
to their TDS . I'd pity them if they weren't so dangerous in their
single-minded zeal .
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Baxter seems to be consumed with blind hatred for Trump.
I hope he does not have a mental breakdown over his TDS.
Snag
2024-10-03 11:49:08 UTC
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Post by T
Wow, you have TDS something terrible.
Really?!!  He's stolen everything else he's had a part in.
You've got TDS really, really bad.
If tRump  was eating people's pets, you'd still vote for him. If he was
eating babies (his hero Hannibal Lector) you'd still vote for him.
Wow.  The TDS is even worse than I originally thought.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/stg062524dAPC-800x0.jpg
   I find it very amusing to think that Trump lives in their heads
24/7/365 . They are so consumed with their hatred that they are
oblivious to anything else . Wife , kids , job , all take second place
to their TDS . I'd pity them if they weren't so dangerous in their
single-minded zeal .
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/stg103022dAPR-800x0.jpg
Baxter seems to be consumed with blind hatred for Trump.
I hope he does not have a mental breakdown over his TDS.
And I kinda hope he does ...
--
Snag
Voting for Kamabla after Biden
is like changing your shirt because
you shit your pants .
Ed P
2024-10-03 13:34:35 UTC
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Post by T
Wow, you have TDS something terrible.
Really?!!  He's stolen everything else he's had a part in.
You've got TDS really, really bad.
If tRump  was eating people's pets, you'd still vote for him. If he was
eating babies (his hero Hannibal Lector) you'd still vote for him.
Wow.  The TDS is even worse than I originally thought.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/stg062524dAPC-800x0.jpg
   I find it very amusing to think that Trump lives in their heads
24/7/365 . They are so consumed with their hatred that they are
oblivious to anything else . Wife , kids , job , all take second
place to their TDS . I'd pity them if they weren't so dangerous in
their single-minded zeal .
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/stg103022dAPR-800x0.jpg
Baxter seems to be consumed with blind hatred for Trump.
I hope he does not have a mental breakdown over his TDS.
  And I kinda hope he does ...
Wow, amazing you would want that of another human being.
T
2024-10-03 22:48:28 UTC
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Post by T
Post by T
Wow, you have TDS something terrible.
Really?!!  He's stolen everything else he's had a part in.
You've got TDS really, really bad.
If tRump  was eating people's pets, you'd still vote for him. If he was
eating babies (his hero Hannibal Lector) you'd still vote for him.
Wow.  The TDS is even worse than I originally thought.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/stg062524dAPC-800x0.jpg
   I find it very amusing to think that Trump lives in their heads
24/7/365 . They are so consumed with their hatred that they are
oblivious to anything else . Wife , kids , job , all take second
place to their TDS . I'd pity them if they weren't so dangerous in
their single-minded zeal .
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/stg103022dAPR-800x0.jpg
Baxter seems to be consumed with blind hatred for Trump.
I hope he does not have a mental breakdown over his TDS.
   And I kinda hope he does ...
Wow, amazing you would want that of another human being.
Wow Comrade, but it is okay to rip the arm, legs, and heads
off of children.
Ed P
2024-10-03 23:56:34 UTC
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Post by T
Post by T
Wow, you have TDS something terrible.
Really?!!  He's stolen everything else he's had a part in.
You've got TDS really, really bad.
If tRump  was eating people's pets, you'd still vote for him. If he was
eating babies (his hero Hannibal Lector) you'd still vote for him.
Wow.  The TDS is even worse than I originally thought.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/stg062524dAPC-800x0.jpg
   I find it very amusing to think that Trump lives in their heads
24/7/365 . They are so consumed with their hatred that they are
oblivious to anything else . Wife , kids , job , all take second
place to their TDS . I'd pity them if they weren't so dangerous in
their single-minded zeal .
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/stg103022dAPR-800x0.jpg
Baxter seems to be consumed with blind hatred for Trump.
I hope he does not have a mental breakdown over his TDS.
   And I kinda hope he does ...
Wow, amazing you would want that of another human being.
Wow Comrade, but it is okay to rip the arm, legs, and heads
off of children.
And you have the death penalty. How many innocent people have been
executed?

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/innocence
Bob F
2024-10-04 00:15:27 UTC
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Post by T
Post by T
Wow, you have TDS something terrible.
Really?!!  He's stolen everything else he's had a part in.
You've got TDS really, really bad.
If tRump  was eating people's pets, you'd still vote for him. If he was
eating babies (his hero Hannibal Lector) you'd still vote for him.
Wow.  The TDS is even worse than I originally thought.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/stg062524dAPC-800x0.jpg
   I find it very amusing to think that Trump lives in their heads
24/7/365 . They are so consumed with their hatred that they are
oblivious to anything else . Wife , kids , job , all take second
place to their TDS . I'd pity them if they weren't so dangerous in
their single-minded zeal .
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/stg103022dAPR-800x0.jpg
Baxter seems to be consumed with blind hatred for Trump.
I hope he does not have a mental breakdown over his TDS.
   And I kinda hope he does ...
Wow, amazing you would want that of another human being.
Wow Comrade, but it is okay to rip the arm, legs, and heads
off of children.
And you have the death penalty.  How many innocent people have been
executed?
https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/innocence
That have made it clear that the right to life ends when you are born.
Ed P
2024-10-04 00:29:39 UTC
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Post by T
Post by T
Wow, you have TDS something terrible.
Really?!!  He's stolen everything else he's had a part in.
You've got TDS really, really bad.
If tRump  was eating people's pets, you'd still vote for him. If he was
eating babies (his hero Hannibal Lector) you'd still vote for him.
Wow.  The TDS is even worse than I originally thought.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/
stg062524dAPC-800x0.jpg
   I find it very amusing to think that Trump lives in their
heads 24/7/365 . They are so consumed with their hatred that they
are oblivious to anything else . Wife , kids , job , all take
second place to their TDS . I'd pity them if they weren't so
dangerous in their single-minded zeal .
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/stg103022dAPR-800x0.jpg
Baxter seems to be consumed with blind hatred for Trump.
I hope he does not have a mental breakdown over his TDS.
   And I kinda hope he does ...
Wow, amazing you would want that of another human being.
Wow Comrade, but it is okay to rip the arm, legs, and heads
off of children.
And you have the death penalty.  How many innocent people have been
executed?
https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/innocence
No justice, no peace.  That is why we have "due process".
And how many innocents were executed by accident versus
how many children you executed?  There is no comparison,
comrade
One is too many. Due process does not always work and some are released
after many years. Are you saying it is OK to kill a small number of
adults?
T
2024-10-04 05:40:10 UTC
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Post by T
Post by T
Wow, you have TDS something terrible.
Really?!!  He's stolen everything else he's had a part in.
You've got TDS really, really bad.
If tRump  was eating people's pets, you'd still vote for him. If he was
eating babies (his hero Hannibal Lector) you'd still vote for him.
Wow.  The TDS is even worse than I originally thought.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/
stg062524dAPC-800x0.jpg
   I find it very amusing to think that Trump lives in their
heads 24/7/365 . They are so consumed with their hatred that
they are oblivious to anything else . Wife , kids , job , all
take second place to their TDS . I'd pity them if they weren't
so dangerous in their single-minded zeal .
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/stg103022dAPR-800x0.jpg
Baxter seems to be consumed with blind hatred for Trump.
I hope he does not have a mental breakdown over his TDS.
   And I kinda hope he does ...
Wow, amazing you would want that of another human being.
Wow Comrade, but it is okay to rip the arm, legs, and heads
off of children.
And you have the death penalty.  How many innocent people have been
executed?
https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/innocence
No justice, no peace.  That is why we have "due process".
And how many innocents were executed by accident versus
how many children you executed?  There is no comparison,
comrade
One is too many. Due process does not always work and some are released
after many years.   Are you saying it is OK to kill a small number of
adults?
I am saying make damned sure you got the right guy before
executing criminals.

But it is alright to tear the arms, legs, and heads
off another human being that has done nothing to anyone
else. But you don't give a s*** about them. They ever
try to scream and run from the pain.
Ed P
2024-10-04 13:58:26 UTC
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Post by Ed P
Post by T
Post by Ed P
Post by T
Post by T
Wow, you have TDS something terrible.
Really?!!  He's stolen everything else he's had a part in.
You've got TDS really, really bad.
If tRump  was eating people's pets, you'd still vote for him.
If he was
eating babies (his hero Hannibal Lector) you'd still vote for him.
Wow.  The TDS is even worse than I originally thought.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/
stg062524dAPC-800x0.jpg
   I find it very amusing to think that Trump lives in their
heads 24/7/365 . They are so consumed with their hatred that
they are oblivious to anything else . Wife , kids , job , all
take second place to their TDS . I'd pity them if they weren't
so dangerous in their single-minded zeal .
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/
stg103022dAPR-800x0.jpg
Baxter seems to be consumed with blind hatred for Trump.
I hope he does not have a mental breakdown over his TDS.
   And I kinda hope he does ...
Wow, amazing you would want that of another human being.
Wow Comrade, but it is okay to rip the arm, legs, and heads
off of children.
And you have the death penalty.  How many innocent people have been
executed?
https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/innocence
No justice, no peace.  That is why we have "due process".
And how many innocents were executed by accident versus
how many children you executed?  There is no comparison,
comrade
One is too many. Due process does not always work and some are
released after many years.   Are you saying it is OK to kill a small
number of adults?
I am saying make damned sure you got the right guy before
executing criminals.
OK, so killing some humans is a good thing. Thanks for the clarification.
T
2024-10-05 05:25:53 UTC
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Post by T
Post by Ed P
Post by T
Post by Ed P
Post by T
Post by T
Wow, you have TDS something terrible.
Really?!!  He's stolen everything else he's had a part in.
You've got TDS really, really bad.
If tRump  was eating people's pets, you'd still vote for
him. If he was
eating babies (his hero Hannibal Lector) you'd still vote for him.
Wow.  The TDS is even worse than I originally thought.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/
stg062524dAPC-800x0.jpg
   I find it very amusing to think that Trump lives in their
heads 24/7/365 . They are so consumed with their hatred that
they are oblivious to anything else . Wife , kids , job , all
take second place to their TDS . I'd pity them if they weren't
so dangerous in their single-minded zeal .
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/
stg103022dAPR-800x0.jpg
Baxter seems to be consumed with blind hatred for Trump.
I hope he does not have a mental breakdown over his TDS.
   And I kinda hope he does ...
Wow, amazing you would want that of another human being.
Wow Comrade, but it is okay to rip the arm, legs, and heads
off of children.
And you have the death penalty.  How many innocent people have been
executed?
https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/innocence
No justice, no peace.  That is why we have "due process".
And how many innocents were executed by accident versus
how many children you executed?  There is no comparison,
comrade
One is too many. Due process does not always work and some are
released after many years.   Are you saying it is OK to kill a small
number of adults?
I am saying make damned sure you got the right guy before
executing criminals.
OK, so killing some humans is a good thing.  Thanks for the clarification.
A functioning justice system with due process
is a good thing.

Butchering someone just because they are causing you
"inconvenience" is wicked.
Ed P
2024-10-05 12:49:41 UTC
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Post by T
Post by T
Post by Ed P
No justice, no peace.  That is why we have "due process".
And how many innocents were executed by accident versus
how many children you executed?  There is no comparison,
comrade
One is too many. Due process does not always work and some are
released after many years.   Are you saying it is OK to kill a small
number of adults?
I am saying make damned sure you got the right guy before
executing criminals.
OK, so killing some humans is a good thing.  Thanks for the
clarification.
A functioning justice system with due process
is a good thing.
Butchering someone just because they are causing you
"inconvenience" is wicked.
Unfortunately, due process is far from perfect but we kill people
anyway. Some are innocent Do you approve that?
Save the babies and kill adults we don't like instead. Their lives
don't matter to you?
T
2024-10-07 00:59:14 UTC
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Post by Ed P
Post by T
Post by T
Post by Ed P
No justice, no peace.  That is why we have "due process".
And how many innocents were executed by accident versus
how many children you executed?  There is no comparison,
comrade
One is too many. Due process does not always work and some are
released after many years.   Are you saying it is OK to kill a
small number of adults?
I am saying make damned sure you got the right guy before
executing criminals.
OK, so killing some humans is a good thing.  Thanks for the
clarification.
A functioning justice system with due process
is a good thing.
Butchering someone just because they are causing you
"inconvenience" is wicked.
Unfortunately, due process is far from perfect but we kill people
anyway.  Some are innocent  Do you approve that?
Save the babies and kill adults we don't like instead.  Their lives
don't matter to you?
The handful of executions that are mistake are a tragedy.
We should do our best to make sure due process protects them.

Tearing arms, legs, and heads off of humans by the hundreds
of thousands that have committed no crime is wicked.
Ed P
2024-10-07 01:24:25 UTC
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Post by T
Post by Ed P
Post by T
Post by T
Post by Ed P
No justice, no peace.  That is why we have "due process".
And how many innocents were executed by accident versus
how many children you executed?  There is no comparison,
comrade
One is too many. Due process does not always work and some are
released after many years.   Are you saying it is OK to kill a
small number of adults?
I am saying make damned sure you got the right guy before
executing criminals.
OK, so killing some humans is a good thing.  Thanks for the clarification.
A functioning justice system with due process
is a good thing.
Butchering someone just because they are causing you
"inconvenience" is wicked.
Unfortunately, due process is far from perfect but we kill people
anyway.  Some are innocent  Do you approve that?
Save the babies and kill adults we don't like instead.  Their lives
don't matter to you?
The handful of executions that are mistake are a tragedy.
We should do our best to make sure due process protects them.
Tearing arms, legs, and heads off of humans by the hundreds
of thousands that have committed no crime is wicked.
An avoidable tragedy. There is a case right now in Oklahoma where a guy
has been in prison for many years, probably innocent.

Are you familiar with the Good Housekeeping seal of approval? You can
do the "T Approved Killing Seal of Approval."

If you want to eliminate abortions and allow killing others, you are
merely a hypocrite and certainly not a Christian.

Yep, you seem to approve some killing of innocent people.
Al Burt Boarla
2024-10-04 10:46:45 UTC
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Post by Ed P
Post by T
Post by Ed P
Post by T
Post by T
Wow, you have TDS something terrible.
Really?!!  He's stolen everything else he's had a part in.
You've got TDS really, really bad.
If tRump  was eating people's pets, you'd still vote for him. If he was
eating babies (his hero Hannibal Lector) you'd still vote for him.
Wow.  The TDS is even worse than I originally thought.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/
stg062524dAPC-800x0.jpg
   I find it very amusing to think that Trump lives in their
heads 24/7/365 . They are so consumed with their hatred that
they are oblivious to anything else . Wife , kids , job , all
take second place to their TDS . I'd pity them if they weren't
so dangerous in their single-minded zeal .
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/stg103022dAPR-800x0.jpg
Baxter seems to be consumed with blind hatred for Trump.
I hope he does not have a mental breakdown over his TDS.
   And I kinda hope he does ...
Wow, amazing you would want that of another human being.
Wow Comrade, but it is okay to rip the arm, legs, and heads
off of children.
And you have the death penalty.  How many innocent people have been
executed?
https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/innocence
No justice, no peace.  That is why we have "due process".
And how many innocents were executed by accident versus
how many children you executed?  There is no comparison,
comrade
One is too many. Due process does not always work and some are
released after many years.   Are you saying it is OK to kill a small
number of adults?
Think of an execution as a postpartum abortion.
Baxter
2024-10-03 14:40:08 UTC
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Post by T
Post by Baxter
Post by T
Post by Baxter
Wow, you have TDS something terrible.
Really?!! He's stolen everything else he's had a part in.
You've got TDS really, really bad.
If tRump was eating people's pets, you'd still vote for him. If he was
eating babies (his hero Hannibal Lector) you'd still vote for him.
Wow. The TDS is even worse than I originally thought.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/stg062524dAPC-800x0.jpg
We're talking about YOU - not tRump here. YOU are the one who will vote
for a criminal that is devoid of all morality, devoid of all humanity.
What kind of slime are you that you would do that?
T
2024-10-03 22:50:47 UTC
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Post by Baxter
Post by T
Post by Baxter
Post by T
Post by Baxter
Wow, you have TDS something terrible.
Really?!! He's stolen everything else he's had a part in.
You've got TDS really, really bad.
If tRump was eating people's pets, you'd still vote for him. If he
was
Post by T
Post by Baxter
eating babies (his hero Hannibal Lector) you'd still vote for him.
Wow. The TDS is even worse than I originally thought.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/stg062524dAPC-800x0.jpg
We're talking about YOU - not tRump here. YOU are the one who will vote
for a criminal that is devoid of all morality, devoid of all humanity.
What kind of slime are you that you would do that?
Baxter,

You are repeating outright lies and smears. And I am
specifically talking about your psychopathic obsession
with it.

Yours is the most extreme case of TDS I have come across.

-T (T/Mr.T/Todd/Dude/His Resplendence)
Baxter
2024-10-04 03:29:21 UTC
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Post by T
Post by Baxter
Post by T
Post by Baxter
Post by T
Post by Baxter
Wow, you have TDS something terrible.
Really?!! He's stolen everything else he's had a part in.
You've got TDS really, really bad.
If tRump was eating people's pets, you'd still vote for him. If he
was
Post by T
Post by Baxter
eating babies (his hero Hannibal Lector) you'd still vote for him.
Wow. The TDS is even worse than I originally thought.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/stg062524dAPC-800x0.jpg
We're talking about YOU - not tRump here. YOU are the one who will vote
for a criminal that is devoid of all morality, devoid of all humanity.
What kind of slime are you that you would do that?
Baxter,
You are repeating outright lies and smears.
Those "outright lies and smears" are from tRump and Vance.
Post by T
And I am
specifically talking about your psychopathic obsession
with it.
Yours is the most extreme case of TDS I have come across.
-T (T/Mr.T/Todd/Dude/His Resplendence)
You are so deranged that you are completely unable to understand the
implications of: "the rules were that you guys weren't going to fact-
check,"
Baxter
2024-10-04 14:54:42 UTC
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Post by Baxter
Post by T
Post by Baxter
We're talking about YOU - not tRump here. YOU are the one who will
vote for a criminal that is devoid of all morality, devoid of all
humanity. What kind of slime are you that you would do that?
Baxter,
You are repeating outright lies and smears.
Those "outright lies and smears" are from tRump and Vance.
Post by T
And I am
specifically talking about your psychopathic obsession
with it.
Yours is the most extreme case of TDS I have come across.
-T (T/Mr.T/Todd/Dude/His Resplendence)
You are so deranged that you are completely unable to understand the
implications of: "the rules were that you guys weren't going to fact-
check,"
What you are missing is that the other side in not lying.
Lying is Trump is a dictator, Trump is a rapist, Trump
said to drink bleach, Trump said skin head were fine
people, Trump is a racist, Trump is a dictator, a boy
can be a girl and a girl can be a boy, there are no
troops in combat zones,
Yeah, those are actually true - good of you to acknowlege them. But
you're still going to vote for him
Trump wrote the Project 2025
project, and on and on and so forth.
No, tRump didn't write Project 2025 - it was written FOR him by his
followers - even Vance had a hand in it. And while you can see that
Project 2025 is evil, you're still going to vote for tRump knowing he
will implement it.

....

Rest of insane QAnon BS deleted unread.

But lets be very clear about the point I made that you're objecting to:
I'm saying that there is nothing that tRump can say or do that will stop
YOU from voting for him.
T
2024-10-05 05:27:53 UTC
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Post by Baxter
What you are missing is that the other side in not lying.
Lying is Trump is a dictator, Trump is a rapist, Trump
said to drink bleach, Trump said skin head were fine
people, Trump is a racist, Trump is a dictator, a boy
can be a girl and a girl can be a boy, there are no
troops in combat zones,
Yeah, those are actually true - good of you to acknowlege them. But
you're still going to vote for him
Actually, they are all propaganda or lies whatever you
what to call them.

You are unable to debate in the arena of ideas, so
you resort to lying.
Baxter
2024-10-05 14:30:19 UTC
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Post by T
Post by Baxter
What you are missing is that the other side in not lying.
Lying is Trump is a dictator, Trump is a rapist, Trump
said to drink bleach, Trump said skin head were fine
people, Trump is a racist, Trump is a dictator, a boy
can be a girl and a girl can be a boy, there are no
troops in combat zones,
Yeah, those are actually true - good of you to acknowlege them. But
you're still going to vote for him
Actually, they are all propaganda or lies whatever you
what to call them.
You are unable to debate in the arena of ideas, so
you resort to lying.
LIAR!! PANTS ON FIRE!! tRump said those things.
T
2024-10-07 01:00:20 UTC
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Post by Baxter
Post by T
Post by Baxter
What you are missing is that the other side in not lying.
Lying is Trump is a dictator, Trump is a rapist, Trump
said to drink bleach, Trump said skin head were fine
people, Trump is a racist, Trump is a dictator, a boy
can be a girl and a girl can be a boy, there are no
troops in combat zones,
Yeah, those are actually true - good of you to acknowlege them. But
you're still going to vote for him
Actually, they are all propaganda or lies whatever you
what to call them.
You are unable to debate in the arena of ideas, so
you resort to lying.
LIAR!! PANTS ON FIRE!! tRump said those things.
Good luck with that Baxter. You swim in a sea of
lies and deceit.
Baxter
2024-10-07 03:08:30 UTC
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Post by T
Post by Baxter
Post by T
Post by Baxter
What you are missing is that the other side in not lying.
Lying is Trump is a dictator, Trump is a rapist, Trump
said to drink bleach, Trump said skin head were fine
people, Trump is a racist, Trump is a dictator, a boy
can be a girl and a girl can be a boy, there are no
troops in combat zones,
Yeah, those are actually true - good of you to acknowlege them. But
you're still going to vote for him
Actually, they are all propaganda or lies whatever you
what to call them.
You are unable to debate in the arena of ideas, so
you resort to lying.
LIAR!! PANTS ON FIRE!! tRump said those things.
Good luck with that Baxter. You swim in a sea of
lies and deceit.
Yeah, you're a regular fire hose of lies and deceit. You'd love to drown
me in them.
T
2024-10-07 10:58:04 UTC
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Post by Baxter
Post by T
Post by Baxter
Post by T
Post by Baxter
What you are missing is that the other side in not lying.
Lying is Trump is a dictator, Trump is a rapist, Trump
said to drink bleach, Trump said skin head were fine
people, Trump is a racist, Trump is a dictator, a boy
can be a girl and a girl can be a boy, there are no
troops in combat zones,
Yeah, those are actually true - good of you to acknowlege them. But
you're still going to vote for him
Actually, they are all propaganda or lies whatever you
what to call them.
You are unable to debate in the arena of ideas, so
you resort to lying.
LIAR!! PANTS ON FIRE!! tRump said those things.
Good luck with that Baxter. You swim in a sea of
lies and deceit.
Yeah, you're a regular fire hose of lies and deceit. You'd love to drown
me in them.
Try to prove some of the lies and propaganda you spew.
You can start with the border is closed and secure.
Then move on to Trump said to drink bleach.
Al Burt Boarla
2024-10-07 13:33:18 UTC
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Post by T
Then move on to Trump said to drink bleach.
The Democrats are so fucking stupid they don't realize that municipal
water systems contain a form of bleach.
These people really are that stupid.  Maybe they drank too much fluoride?
Baxter
2024-10-07 14:52:42 UTC
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Post by T
Then move on to Trump said to drink bleach.
The Democrats are so fucking stupid they don't realize that municipal
water systems contain a form of bleach.
These people really are that stupid.  Maybe they drank too much
fluoride?
He didn't say "drink" - but he did say:
==========
"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute.
And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or
almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a
tremendous number on the lungs"
=========

Which resulted in:
=============
Calls to poison centers have increased in a number of states following
Donald Trump's suggestion last week that disinfectants be considered a
possible treatment for the novel coronavirus. Yes, people actually
started ingesting disinfectants like Lysol last week.

https://www.poison.med.wayne.edu/updates-
content/kstytapp2qfstf0pkacdxmz943u1hs
========

So tell us, how is it (disinfectant) going to get into the lungs?
Governor Swill
2024-10-07 18:49:10 UTC
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Post by Al Burt Boarla
The Democrats are so fucking stupid
You're a Democrat?
--
Although Trump is not among Project 2025'- 34 authors, more than half are appointees
and staff from his time as president; the words "Trump" and "Trump
Administration" appear 300 times in its pages. At least 140 former Trump
officials are involved in Project 2025, according to a CNN tally. It’s
reasonable to expect that a second Trump presidency would follow many of
the project’s recommendations.


Two more reasons to not vote for Trump in 29 days.


34) Trump ordered the Department of Justice to
falsely claim that the election was corrupt.

35) Trump and his allies used threats to pressure state leaders
in Arizona and Georgia to falsify the election results.
Lil dwarf Rudey
2024-10-08 17:07:12 UTC
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You're a Democrat?
Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond and a few dozen other
socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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El Kabong
2024-10-08 17:26:02 UTC
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Post by T
Then move on to Trump said to drink bleach.
The Democrats are so fucking stupid they don't realize that municipal
water systems contain a form of bleach.
These people really are that stupid.  Maybe they drank too much fluoride?
The fluorides used in drinking water (such as sodium
fluoride and others) are in no way oxidizers, which
bleach is.

Municipal water systems contain no "form of bleach".

Trumpkins just can't win without lying.
Henry Bodkin
2024-10-08 17:46:24 UTC
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Post by El Kabong
Post by Al Burt Boarla
Post by T
Then move on to Trump said to drink bleach.
The Democrats are so fucking stupid they don't realize that municipal
water systems contain a form of bleach.
These people really are that stupid.ÿ Maybe they drank too much fluoride?
The fluorides used in drinking water (such as sodium
fluoride and others) are in no way oxidizers, which
bleach is.
Municipal water systems contain no "form of bleach".
Trumpkins just can't win without lying.
I love how they defend every stupid thing Trump says.
Skeeter
2024-10-08 18:00:09 UTC
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Post by Henry Bodkin
Post by El Kabong
Post by Al Burt Boarla
Post by T
Then move on to Trump said to drink bleach.
The Democrats are so fucking stupid they don't realize that municipal
water systems contain a form of bleach.
These people really are that stupid.ÿ Maybe they drank too much fluoride?
The fluorides used in drinking water (such as sodium
fluoride and others) are in no way oxidizers, which
bleach is.
Municipal water systems contain no "form of bleach".
Trumpkins just can't win without lying.
I love how they defend every stupid thing Trump says.
Yet you defend everything Joe and Camel say.
Governor Swill
2024-10-08 22:21:11 UTC
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Post by Skeeter
Post by Henry Bodkin
Post by El Kabong
Post by Al Burt Boarla
Post by T
Then move on to Trump said to drink bleach.
The Democrats are so fucking stupid they don't realize that municipal
water systems contain a form of bleach.
These people really are that stupid.ÿ Maybe they drank too much fluoride?
The fluorides used in drinking water (such as sodium
fluoride and others) are in no way oxidizers, which
bleach is.
Municipal water systems contain no "form of bleach".
Trumpkins just can't win without lying.
I love how they defend every stupid thing Trump says.
Yet you defend everything Joe and Camel say.
Not everything and not when they lie. Rightists are famous for doubling down on
their lies when they're caught. It cost Faux more than three quarters of a
billion dollars.
--
Although Trump is not among Project 2025'- 34 authors, more than half are appointees
and staff from his time as president; the words "Trump" and "Trump
Administration" appear 300 times in its pages. At least 140 former Trump
officials are involved in Project 2025, according to a CNN tally. It’s
reasonable to expect that a second Trump presidency would follow many of
the project’s recommendations.


Two more reasons to not vote for Trump in 28 days.


36) When none of the previous schemes worked, Trump and
his allies produced fake electoral votes cast by fake electors
in multiple swing states.

37) Trump tried to bully Vice President Pence into obstructing
the certification of the election.
"If Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election."
Lil dwarf Rudey
2024-10-09 15:07:09 UTC
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Not everything and not when they lie.
Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond and a few dozen other
socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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is an important step to getting there.
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?
Lil dwarf Rudey
2024-10-10 19:30:53 UTC
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doubling down on
their lies
Why are you death threat prosecution exempt by the Feds so far?

And after _so many_ death threats you issued on Trump and Vance...

Let's do our best to change that, shall we:


Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond/Henry Bodkin and a
few dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
Post by Governor Swill
is an important step to getting there.
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's usenet terrorism here?

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Baxter
2024-10-09 03:31:39 UTC
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Post by Henry Bodkin
Post by El Kabong
Post by Al Burt Boarla
Post by T
Then move on to Trump said to drink bleach.
The Democrats are so fucking stupid they don't realize that
municipal water systems contain a form of bleach.
These people really are that stupid.ÿ Maybe they drank too much fluoride?
The fluorides used in drinking water (such as sodium
fluoride and others) are in no way oxidizers, which
bleach is.
Municipal water systems contain no "form of bleach".
Trumpkins just can't win without lying.
I love how they defend every stupid thing Trump says.
Yet you defend everything Joe and Camel say.
It's one thing to defend the truth, quite another to defend lies.
Skeeter
2024-10-09 12:52:22 UTC
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says...
Post by Baxter
Post by Skeeter
Post by Henry Bodkin
Post by El Kabong
Post by Al Burt Boarla
Post by T
Then move on to Trump said to drink bleach.
The Democrats are so fucking stupid they don't realize that
municipal water systems contain a form of bleach.
These people really are that stupid.ÿ Maybe they drank too much fluoride?
The fluorides used in drinking water (such as sodium
fluoride and others) are in no way oxidizers, which
bleach is.
Municipal water systems contain no "form of bleach".
Trumpkins just can't win without lying.
I love how they defend every stupid thing Trump says.
Yet you defend everything Joe and Camel say.
It's one thing to defend the truth, quite another to defend lies.
So no lies from Cameltoe? Only Trump? Yet you can't back that up.
Lil dwarf Rudey
2024-10-08 21:00:36 UTC
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I love how they defend every stupid thing
Why are you prosecution exempt so far?

Let's do our best to change that.


Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond and a few dozen other
socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?
Governor Swill
2024-10-08 22:19:30 UTC
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Post by El Kabong
Post by Al Burt Boarla
Post by T
Then move on to Trump said to drink bleach.
The Democrats are so fucking stupid they don't realize that municipal
water systems contain a form of bleach.
These people really are that stupid.ÿ Maybe they drank too much fluoride?
The fluorides used in drinking water (such as sodium
fluoride and others) are in no way oxidizers, which
bleach is.
Municipal water systems contain no "form of bleach".
Trumpkins just can't win without lying.
I love how they defend every stupid thing Trump says.
I don't.
--
Although Trump is not among Project 2025'- 34 authors, more than half are appointees
and staff from his time as president; the words "Trump" and "Trump
Administration" appear 300 times in its pages. At least 140 former Trump
officials are involved in Project 2025, according to a CNN tally. It’s
reasonable to expect that a second Trump presidency would follow many of
the project’s recommendations.


Two more reasons to not vote for Trump in 28 days.


36) When none of the previous schemes worked, Trump and
his allies produced fake electoral votes cast by fake electors
in multiple swing states.

37) Trump tried to bully Vice President Pence into obstructing
the certification of the election.
"If Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election."
Lil dwarf Rudey
2024-10-09 15:07:23 UTC
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I don't.
YOU DO:



Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond and a few dozen other
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No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
Post by Governor Swill
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?
Lil dwarf Rudey
2024-10-10 19:31:04 UTC
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I don't.
Why are you death threat prosecution exempt by the Feds so far?

And after _so many_ death threats you issued on Trump and Vance...

Let's do our best to change that, shall we:


Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond/Henry Bodkin and a
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Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's usenet terrorism here?

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Mittens Romney
2024-10-08 20:46:06 UTC
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Municipal water systems contain no "form of bleach".
Fuckoff Rudey!

https://danamark.com/resources/municipal-chlorine-use/

Chlorine use is widely used by municipal water systems to disinfect
water from bacteria, viruses and other microorganisms that cause
diseases. In fact, approximately 75 percent of municipal water systems
use chlorine. Diseases such as typhoid fever and cholera, which are
easily spread through infected water, have virtually been wiped out
because of chlorine use.

What is Chlorine?

Chlorine is one of the chemical agents, noted for its great power as an
oxidizing agent. When dispersed in the air, it was a terrible war gas.
When dispersed in water, “free chlorine” attacks everything it touches,
creating chemical by-products with every reaction.

Effects of Chlorine

Despite it usefulness in disinfecting drinking water, there are problems
associated with chlorine. Chlorine use can cause aesthetic water
quality problems like a swimming pool taste and odour.

Far more alarming are some studies that link chlorine by-products with
bladder, colon and rectal cancer. One study shows that people who drink
chlorinated water run a 21 percent greater risk of bladder cancer than
people who drink water with no chlorine.

One by-product is Trihalomethanes, or THMs. THMs are formed when
chlorine reacts with a naturally occurring organic matter in water, like
decayed leaves. THMs (like chloroform) have been linked to a higher
rate of cancer and have been classified as probable or possible human
carcinogens by the US Environmental Agency (EPA). Research also
indicates that many other volatile organic chemicals (VOCs) are also
often present in water that has been treated with chlorine.

History of chlorine use and water treatment

Chlorine was first used to disinfect water in the early 1900’s. At the
time, outbreaks of cholera and typhoid fever, spread by the water
system, were common and severe. In fact, major North American cities
were suffering 100 or more typhoid deaths per 100,000 persons. Within 10
years after chlorine was introduced, the death rate fell dramatically.
Since then, chlorine has been a primary means of chemically treating water.

In the mid-1970’s, research determined that VOCs, including chloroform
and THMs, were present in drinking water that was treated with chlorine.
Subsequent tests revealed that these compounds were not found in the
same water prior to chlorine disinfection.

Consequently, in 1979 the EPA set a Maximum Contaminant Level (MCL) of
0.1 milligrams per litre (mg/l) for THMs. Recognizing the need to
completely eliminate THMs from drinking water, the EPA has set a Maximum
Contaminant Level Goal (MCLG) of zero for THMs. A MLCG is simply a
target point though, not an enforceable limit. This standard applies
only to water treatment systems serving more than 10,000 people, which
covers 79 percent of the North American population.

Detecting chlorine in your water

Determining whether chlorine is present is sometimes as simple as
smelling or tasting your water. If your water smells or tastes like a
swimming pool, the cause of that small or odour is most likely chlorine.
To be certain if chlorine is used in your water system, call your
local health department or water provider.

Reducing chlorine in your water

While there is no way to prevent the addition of chlorine in your
municipal water supply, there is a way to remove or reduce chlorine and
chlorine by-products from your water before you drink or cook with it.
This can be done simply and cost-effectively with a point-of-use (POU)
water filtration system, certified by NSF International, for the
reduction of chlorine, THMs and VOCs.
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Mittens Romney
2024-10-08 20:53:32 UTC
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The fluorides used in drinking water (such as sodium
fluoride and others) are in no way oxidizers
You're LYING again, Rudey:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3956646/

Fluorine is the world's 13th most abundant element and constitutes 0.08%
of the Earth crust. It has the highest electronegativity of all
elements. Fluoride is widely distributed in the environment, occurring
in the air, soils, rocks, and water. Although fluoride is used
industrially in a fluorine compound, the manufacture of ceramics,
pesticides, aerosol propellants, refrigerants, glassware, and Teflon
cookware, it is a generally unwanted byproduct of aluminium, fertilizer,
and iron ore manufacture. The medicinal use of fluorides for the
prevention of dental caries began in January 1945 when community water
supplies in Grand Rapids, United States, were fluoridated to a level of
1 ppm as a dental caries prevention measure. However, water fluoridation
remains a controversial public health measure. This paper reviews the
human health effects of fluoride. The authors conclude that available
evidence suggests that fluoride has a potential to cause major adverse
human health problems, while having only a modest dental caries
prevention effect. As part of efforts to reduce hazardous fluoride
ingestion, the practice of artificial water fluoridation should be
reconsidered globally, while industrial safety measures need to be
tightened in order to reduce unethical discharge of fluoride compounds
into the environment. Public health approaches for global dental caries
reduction that do not involve systemic ingestion of fluoride are
urgently needed.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6129794/

Chronic Exposure to Sodium Fluoride Triggers Oxidative Biochemistry
Misbalance in Mice: Effects on Peripheral Blood Circulation

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022113915001992

Chemically oxidative fluorination with fluoride ions
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Ed P
2024-10-07 13:39:34 UTC
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LIAR!!  PANTS ON FIRE!!  tRump said those things.
Good luck with that Baxter.  You swim in a sea of
lies and deceit.
Yeah, you're a regular fire hose of lies and deceit.  You'd love to drown
me in them.
Try to prove some of the lies and propaganda you spew.
You can start with the border is closed and secure.
Then move on to Trump said to drink bleach.
No, he said to inject disinfectants

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-inject-bleach-covid-19/

What's True
During an April 2020 media briefing, Trump did ask members of the
government's coronavirus task force to look into whether disinfectants
could be injected inside people to treat COVID-19. But when a reporter
asked in a follow-up question whether cleaning products like bleach and
isopropyl alcohol would be injected into a person, the then-president
said those products would be used for sterilizing an area, not for
injections.
Baxter
2024-10-07 14:40:47 UTC
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Post by Baxter
Post by T
Post by Baxter
Post by T
Post by Baxter
What you are missing is that the other side in not lying.
Lying is Trump is a dictator, Trump is a rapist, Trump
said to drink bleach, Trump said skin head were fine
people, Trump is a racist, Trump is a dictator, a boy
can be a girl and a girl can be a boy, there are no
troops in combat zones,
Yeah, those are actually true - good of you to acknowlege them.
But you're still going to vote for him
Actually, they are all propaganda or lies whatever you
what to call them.
You are unable to debate in the arena of ideas, so
you resort to lying.
LIAR!! PANTS ON FIRE!! tRump said those things.
Good luck with that Baxter. You swim in a sea of
lies and deceit.
Yeah, you're a regular fire hose of lies and deceit. You'd love to
drown me in them.
Try to prove some of the lies and propaganda you spew.
You can start with the border is closed and secure.
Where did I ever say the "border is closed and secure"?! I fact, I've
said that tRump/Repuglcans have refused to provide funding to secure the
border.

But do note:
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July saw the lowest number of crossings at the U.S.-Mexico border in four
years, a statistic that is sure to be a boon for Democrats on the eve of
their convention as immigration continues to be a central issue in the
presidential election.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) said Friday that July saw a 32%
drop over the prior month, thanks in part to President Joe Biden's
effective asylum ban signed in June.

https://www.newsweek.com/us-mexico-illegal-border-crossings-fall-july-
2024-1940544
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Post by T
Then move on to Trump said to drink bleach.
He didn't say "drink" - but he did say:
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"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute.
And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or
almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a
tremendous number on the lungs"
=========

Which resulted in:
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Calls to poison centers have increased in a number of states following
Donald Trump’s suggestion last week that disinfectants be considered a
possible treatment for the novel coronavirus. Yes, people actually
started ingesting disinfectants like Lysol last week.

https://www.poison.med.wayne.edu/updates-
content/kstytapp2qfstf0pkacdxmz943u1hs
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Skeeter
2024-10-07 14:48:47 UTC
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In article <ve0rte$fgco$***@dont-email.me>, ***@baxcode.com
says...
Post by Baxter
Post by T
Post by Baxter
Post by T
Post by Baxter
Post by T
Post by Baxter
What you are missing is that the other side in not lying.
Lying is Trump is a dictator, Trump is a rapist, Trump
said to drink bleach, Trump said skin head were fine
people, Trump is a racist, Trump is a dictator, a boy
can be a girl and a girl can be a boy, there are no
troops in combat zones,
Yeah, those are actually true - good of you to acknowlege them.
But you're still going to vote for him
Actually, they are all propaganda or lies whatever you
what to call them.
You are unable to debate in the arena of ideas, so
you resort to lying.
LIAR!! PANTS ON FIRE!! tRump said those things.
Good luck with that Baxter. You swim in a sea of
lies and deceit.
Yeah, you're a regular fire hose of lies and deceit. You'd love to
drown me in them.
Try to prove some of the lies and propaganda you spew.
You can start with the border is closed and secure.
Where did I ever say the "border is closed and secure"?! I fact, I've
said that tRump/Repuglcans have refused to provide funding to secure the
border.
=========
July saw the lowest number of crossings at the U.S.-Mexico border in four
years, a statistic that is sure to be a boon for Democrats on the eve of
their convention as immigration continues to be a central issue in the
presidential election.
U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) said Friday that July saw a 32%
drop over the prior month, thanks in part to President Joe Biden's
effective asylum ban signed in June.
https://www.newsweek.com/us-mexico-illegal-border-crossings-fall-july-
2024-1940544
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Little late now that they are already here.
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