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Wire wheel to remove paint from siding
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Eigenvector
2007-07-20 04:11:20 UTC
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Is it acceptable to remove latex paint from cedar siding with a wire wheel
attachment for a drill?

Yes I am aware there are other methods for doing this, but I'm just curious
about using a wire wheel - something like this
http://www.hobbytool.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=392

That's not the one I'm thinking of, but gives you an idea of what I'm
talking about.
Eric9822
2007-07-20 04:26:38 UTC
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Post by Eigenvector
Is it acceptable to remove latex paint from cedar siding with a wire wheel
attachment for a drill?
Yes I am aware there are other methods for doing this, but I'm just curious
about using a wire wheel - something like thishttp://www.hobbytool.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=392
That's not the one I'm thinking of, but gives you an idea of what I'm
talking about.
I think it would remove as much siding as it does paint.
Pat
2007-07-20 04:27:21 UTC
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Post by Eigenvector
Is it acceptable to remove latex paint from cedar siding with a wire wheel
attachment for a drill?
Yes I am aware there are other methods for doing this, but I'm just curious
about using a wire wheel - something like thishttp://www.hobbytool.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=392
That's not the one I'm thinking of, but gives you an idea of what I'm
talking about.
Check the paint for lead. If it is LBP, then definitely don't do it.
You'll have a disaster on your hands that could easily contaminate
your children or grandchildren.
HeyBub
2007-07-20 13:02:05 UTC
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Post by Pat
Check the paint for lead. If it is LBP, then definitely don't do it.
You'll have a disaster on your hands that could easily contaminate
your children or grandchildren.
Lead? In Latex paint?

And why shouldn't his children have all the opportunities he had?
Don Phillipson
2007-07-20 13:12:08 UTC
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Post by Pat
Post by Eigenvector
Is it acceptable to remove latex paint from cedar siding with a wire wheel
attachment for a drill?
Check the paint for lead. If it is LBP, then definitely don't do it.
You'll have a disaster on your hands that could easily contaminate
your children or grandchildren.
Lead was used until approx. 30 years ago in traditional
oil-based paints, possibly never in latex/alkyd paints
(new in the 1960s.)

The practical point, however, is that whenever sanding
or scraping we should avoid inhaling any powdered debris,
i.e. wear the right sort of nose/mouth mask.
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
Steve Barker
2007-07-20 17:45:50 UTC
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That is such bullshit. Jeeeeze... Another chicken little.
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Steve Barker
Post by Pat
Post by Eigenvector
Is it acceptable to remove latex paint from cedar siding with a wire wheel
attachment for a drill?
Yes I am aware there are other methods for doing this, but I'm just curious
about using a wire wheel - something like
thishttp://www.hobbytool.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=392
That's not the one I'm thinking of, but gives you an idea of what I'm
talking about.
Check the paint for lead. If it is LBP, then definitely don't do it.
You'll have a disaster on your hands that could easily contaminate
your children or grandchildren.
Bob F
2007-07-20 04:31:35 UTC
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Post by Eigenvector
Is it acceptable to remove latex paint from cedar siding with a wire
wheel attachment for a drill?
Yes I am aware there are other methods for doing this, but I'm just
curious about using a wire wheel - something like this
http://www.hobbytool.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=392
That's not the one I'm thinking of, but gives you an idea of what
I'm talking about.
A wire wheel will remove paint from steel. It'll destroy wood. The
wood is softer than the paint.

Bob
Robert Allison
2007-07-20 04:33:29 UTC
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Post by Eigenvector
Is it acceptable to remove latex paint from cedar siding with a wire wheel
attachment for a drill?
Yes I am aware there are other methods for doing this, but I'm just curious
about using a wire wheel - something like this
http://www.hobbytool.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=392
That's not the one I'm thinking of, but gives you an idea of what I'm
talking about.
Sure, you can use it to remove the paint. Just keep in mind
that it is also going to remove the wood underneath the paint.
If you hold it in one place too long, you can actually put a
hole through your siding, especially cedar. Cedar is very
soft and you will end up with a VERY uneven surface. You will
end up with "distressed wood" look.
--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX
Eigenvector
2007-07-20 04:44:25 UTC
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Post by Eigenvector
Is it acceptable to remove latex paint from cedar siding with a wire
wheel attachment for a drill?
Yes I am aware there are other methods for doing this, but I'm just
curious about using a wire wheel - something like this
http://www.hobbytool.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=392
That's not the one I'm thinking of, but gives you an idea of what I'm
talking about.
Sure, you can use it to remove the paint. Just keep in mind that it is
also going to remove the wood underneath the paint. If you hold it in one
place too long, you can actually put a hole through your siding,
especially cedar. Cedar is very soft and you will end up with a VERY
uneven surface. You will end up with "distressed wood" look.
--
Robert Allison Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX
Alright, well scratch that idea then.
Bob F
2007-07-20 15:02:43 UTC
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Post by Eigenvector
Post by Robert Allison
Post by Eigenvector
Is it acceptable to remove latex paint from cedar siding
with a wire wheel attachment for a drill?
Yes I am aware there are other methods for doing this,
but I'm just curious about using a wire wheel -
something like this
http://www.hobbytool.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=392
That's not the one I'm thinking of, but gives you an
idea of what I'm talking about.
Sure, you can use it to remove the paint. Just keep in
mind that it is also going to remove the wood underneath
the paint. If you hold it in one place too long, you can
actually put a hole through your siding, especially
cedar. Cedar is very soft and you will end up with a
VERY uneven surface. You will end up with "distressed
wood" look.
--
Robert Allison Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX
Alright, well scratch that idea then.
http://www.amazon.com/Porter-Cable-7403-Abrasive-Paint-Remover/dp/B0000222YQ

or

http://www.amazon.com/Warner-000-Watt-Radiant-Remover-382XXX/sim/B0000A14RC/2

Bob
Art
2007-07-20 05:18:03 UTC
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Years ago Consumer Reports tested one and said it was pretty much worthless.
Post by Eigenvector
Is it acceptable to remove latex paint from cedar siding with a wire wheel
attachment for a drill?
Yes I am aware there are other methods for doing this, but I'm just
curious about using a wire wheel - something like this
http://www.hobbytool.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=392
That's not the one I'm thinking of, but gives you an idea of what I'm
talking about.
mm
2007-07-20 06:43:00 UTC
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:11:20 -0700, "Eigenvector"
Post by Eigenvector
Is it acceptable to remove latex paint from cedar siding with a wire wheel
attachment for a drill?
I haven't used it on siding, or on cedar, or with a drill, but I have
had great success using a wire wheel, on a bench grinder, on wood.

Specifically I remember a hammer handle where the wheel took off
nothing discernable except a few paint stains and the old dirty
surface of the handle, but there was no visible "sawdust" below the
grinder. Then I rubbed in some linseed oil. Of course hammer handles
are hard.

It's much harder to control a wire wheel or a grindstone when it's on
a drill. Is that why they sell angle grinders? I just bought one and
haven't used it yet.

Say, for example, on metal, Would an angle grinder work with a wire
wheel? Better than a drill?
Post by Eigenvector
Yes I am aware there are other methods for doing this, but I'm just curious
about using a wire wheel - something like this
http://www.hobbytool.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=392
That's not the one I'm thinking of, but gives you an idea of what I'm
talking about.
Steve Barker
2007-07-20 17:45:15 UTC
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They'll work fine if you don't have anythin' to do for about a year.
Otherwise, hire a sand blaster.
--
Steve Barker
Post by Eigenvector
Is it acceptable to remove latex paint from cedar siding with a wire wheel
attachment for a drill?
Yes I am aware there are other methods for doing this, but I'm just
curious about using a wire wheel - something like this
http://www.hobbytool.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=392
That's not the one I'm thinking of, but gives you an idea of what I'm
talking about.
Bob F
2007-07-20 17:59:57 UTC
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You suggest using a sand blaster to remove paint from cedar? What are you on?

Bob
Post by Steve Barker
They'll work fine if you don't have anythin' to do for about a year.
Otherwise, hire a sand blaster.
--
Steve Barker
Post by Eigenvector
Is it acceptable to remove latex paint from cedar siding with a wire wheel
attachment for a drill?
Yes I am aware there are other methods for doing this, but I'm just curious
about using a wire wheel - something like this
http://www.hobbytool.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=392
That's not the one I'm thinking of, but gives you an idea of what I'm talking
about.
Don Young
2007-07-21 01:43:31 UTC
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Post by Eigenvector
Is it acceptable to remove latex paint from cedar siding with a wire wheel
attachment for a drill?
Yes I am aware there are other methods for doing this, but I'm just
curious about using a wire wheel - something like this
http://www.hobbytool.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=392
That's not the one I'm thinking of, but gives you an idea of what I'm
talking about.
In my opinion, the best thing to do with siding paint is to use a scraper to
remove only the paint which is already loose. Stripping all the paint off is
usually unnecessary. If you want to, sand the rest and feather the edges a
little with coarse sandpaper. Use a good primer and paint. House paint
generally does not need to be smooth like automobile paint. It is intended
to protect and to look good from a distance. You can put in a lot of labor
for very little in improvement.

Don Young
Chris Lewis
2007-07-23 19:11:39 UTC
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Post by Don Young
Post by Eigenvector
Is it acceptable to remove latex paint from cedar siding with a wire wheel
attachment for a drill?
Yes I am aware there are other methods for doing this, but I'm just
curious about using a wire wheel - something like this
http://www.hobbytool.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=392
That's not the one I'm thinking of, but gives you an idea of what I'm
talking about.
In my opinion, the best thing to do with siding paint is to use a scraper to
remove only the paint which is already loose. Stripping all the paint off is
usually unnecessary. If you want to, sand the rest and feather the edges a
little with coarse sandpaper. Use a good primer and paint. House paint
generally does not need to be smooth like automobile paint. It is intended
to protect and to look good from a distance. You can put in a lot of labor
for very little in improvement.
He may be wanting to restore the original wood grain for a transparent
stain. Or he may be trying to remove paint splatters.

The former is a huge job, and probably best done with a heat gun (watch
you don't set the place on fire!) or good & sharp (learn how to sharpen
them properly) hook scrapers, followed by a bit of sanding. The latter
best done with a hook scraper, or perhaps a flat one if it's blobs.

If he's just repainting/solid stain, your suggestions are right on.
--
Chris Lewis,

Age and Treachery will Triumph over Youth and Skill
It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them.
Bob F
2007-07-23 23:41:58 UTC
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Post by Don Young
Post by Eigenvector
Is it acceptable to remove latex paint from cedar siding with a wire wheel
attachment for a drill?
Yes I am aware there are other methods for doing this, but I'm just curious
about using a wire wheel - something like this
http://www.hobbytool.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=392
That's not the one I'm thinking of, but gives you an idea of what I'm talking
about.
In my opinion, the best thing to do with siding paint is to use a scraper to
remove only the paint which is already loose. Stripping all the paint off is
usually unnecessary. If you want to, sand the rest and feather the edges a
little with coarse sandpaper. Use a good primer and paint. House paint
generally does not need to be smooth like automobile paint. It is intended to
protect and to look good from a distance. You can put in a lot of labor for
very little in improvement.
I have been stripping my 1926 house, a bit at a time using an infrared stripper.
The result, after priming and painting, looks like brand new 1926 siding. No
paint edges show. No new bubbles form each year where the old paint is losing
adhesion. No sanding marks. It just looks immensly better than the patchwork
prep described here, and I bet it lasts way longer. Yes, it's a lot of work, but
my time is cheap.

The infrared stripper works best on multiple layers of paint. If you house only
has a coat or two, resolts may be not as good.

Bob
Doug Miller
2007-07-24 00:20:45 UTC
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Post by Bob F
I have been stripping my 1926 house, a bit at a time using an infrared stripper.
What's the difference between an infrared stripper and a heat gun?
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
Bob F
2007-07-24 04:54:17 UTC
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Post by Doug Miller
Post by Bob F
I have been stripping my 1926 house, a bit at a time using an infrared stripper.
What's the difference between an infrared stripper and a heat gun?
The thing I use is a radiant heating element in a metal shield with a wood
handle. I hold it over the paint for several seconds, then scrape the softened
and bubbling paint.

My tool is similar to the item below - but was $2 at a yard sale.
http://www.amazon.com/Warner-000-Watt-Radiant-Remover-382XXX/sim/B0000A14RC/2

Bob

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