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Is Usesent (and/or Reddit) social media?
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micky
2024-12-16 19:46:26 UTC
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I'll get back to everyone who posted in my previous thread, but I need
to know if you all think Usenet is social media?
Or Social Media? Which?

And would you answer the same for Reddit?

They're social because they involve people, but people don't make
friends on any of them, normally. And people don't talk about little
or even big things that happen in their personal lives much, and when
once in a while I do, most people are bored and ignore them in any
replies they make.

To me that means it's not social.

But if some webpage that matters to me asks how I heard about it, and I
say "internet" but NOT through social media, they will likely think its
a page with good or bad informative text but no way for readers to
reply. That Usenet and Reddit do allow replies, depend on replies, sort
of makes them *social* media.

So all in all, in your opinion, are Usenet and Reddit social media?
clams casino
2024-12-16 20:24:50 UTC
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Post by micky
I'll get back to everyone who posted in my previous thread, but I need
to know if you all think Usenet is social media?
Or Social Media? Which?
That's just a caps thing.
Post by micky
And would you answer the same for Reddit?
Yes.
Post by micky
They're social because they involve people, but people don't make
friends on any of them, normally. And people don't talk about little
or even big things that happen in their personal lives much, and when
once in a while I do, most people are bored and ignore them in any
replies they make.
You haven't been on RFC much have ya?

It's a loony bin of personal over-sharing and mandates of control.
Post by micky
To me that means it's not social.
But a library is social and no one speaks much.
Post by micky
But if some webpage that matters to me asks how I heard about it, and I
say "internet" but NOT through social media, they will likely think its
a page with good or bad informative text but no way for readers to
reply. That Usenet and Reddit do allow replies, depend on replies, sort
of makes them *social* media.
Yes.

Uselessnet now un-moderated - yay!

Reddit a bastion of censors.

Boo!
Post by micky
So all in all, in your opinion, are Usenet and Reddit social media?
They are, but uselessnet is like CB radio, long since leapfrogged by new
band spectrums and better equipment.
Alan K.
2024-12-16 20:48:08 UTC
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Post by micky
I'll get back to everyone who posted in my previous thread, but I need
to know if you all think Usenet is social media?
Or Social Media? Which?
And would you answer the same for Reddit?
They're social because they involve people, but people don't make
friends on any of them, normally. And people don't talk about little
or even big things that happen in their personal lives much, and when
once in a while I do, most people are bored and ignore them in any
replies they make.
To me that means it's not social.
But if some webpage that matters to me asks how I heard about it, and I
say "internet" but NOT through social media, they will likely think its
a page with good or bad informative text but no way for readers to
reply. That Usenet and Reddit do allow replies, depend on replies, sort
of makes them *social* media.
So all in all, in your opinion, are Usenet and Reddit social media?
CoPilot say:
Usenet is not considered traditional social media, but it does share some characteristics with it.
Usenet is a worldwide distributed discussion system that dates back to the early days of the
internet. It's more like a collection of newsgroups where users can post messages and read others'
posts on various topics.

Here's how Usenet compares to modern social media:

Structure: Usenet is organized into newsgroups, similar to forums, each dedicated to specific
topics. Social media platforms, on the other hand, often use more fluid structures like timelines,
feeds, and groups.

Interaction: Users on Usenet interact by posting messages (called articles) and responding to them,
similar to how users comment on social media posts. However, Usenet lacks many of the features found
on modern social media platforms, such as likes, shares, and multimedia content.

Anonymity: Usenet users can post messages without revealing their real identities, while social
media platforms often encourage users to create profiles with personal information.

Content: Usenet focuses more on text-based discussions, whereas social media platforms support a
wide range of content types, including images, videos, and live streams.

In essence, while Usenet provides a platform for online discussions and information sharing, it
operates differently from modern social media platforms like Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram.
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Alan K.
bad sector
2024-12-16 23:04:55 UTC
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Post by Alan K.
Usenet is not considered traditional social media, but it does share
some characteristics with it. Usenet is a worldwide distributed
discussion system that dates back to the early days of the internet.
It's more like a collection of newsgroups where users can post messages
and read others' posts on various topics.
It's not more LIKE a collection of newsgroups, it IS a collection of
newsgroups and it cannot even be mentioned in the same sentence with any
of them other 'orifices'.
Post by Alan K.
Anonymity: Usenet users can post messages without revealing their real
identities, while social media platforms often encourage users to create
profiles with personal information.
This has got to be the attribute that makes THE difference and is why
millions prefer it and why many agencies have been trying and continue
to try to destroy it.
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Steve Hayes
2024-12-17 08:14:39 UTC
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Post by micky
I'll get back to everyone who posted in my previous thread, but I need
to know if you all think Usenet is social media?
Or Social Media? Which?
Usenet is indeed a social medium, and more social than most other
social media, because one's communication is not controlled and
manipulated by algorithms.
Post by micky
And would you answer the same for Reddit?
I know nothing about Reddit.
Post by micky
They're social because they involve people, but people don't make
friends on any of them, normally. And people don't talk about little
or even big things that happen in their personal lives much, and when
once in a while I do, most people are bored and ignore them in any
replies they make.
To me that means it's not social.
There was a time when Usenet was primarily academic rather than
social, but that time is long past. And there always was a social
element. Interactions between people vary depending on the nature of
particular newsgroups, but it is the same with other social media
platforms like Facebook.
Post by micky
But if some webpage that matters to me asks how I heard about it, and I
say "internet" but NOT through social media, they will likely think its
a page with good or bad informative text but no way for readers to
reply. That Usenet and Reddit do allow replies, depend on replies, sort
of makes them *social* media.
So all in all, in your opinion, are Usenet and Reddit social media?
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micky
2024-12-17 11:22:47 UTC
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In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 17 Dec 2024 10:14:39 +0200, Steve Hayes
Post by Steve Hayes
Post by micky
I'll get back to everyone who posted in my previous thread, but I need
to know if you all think Usenet is social media?
Or Social Media? Which?
Usenet is indeed a social medium, and more social than most other
social media, because one's communication is not controlled and
manipulated by algorithms.
Post by micky
And would you answer the same for Reddit?
I know nothing about Reddit
It does have loads of control. I got 6 emails from bots last night
saying that one or another post had been cancelled because I was new and
they said new people often posted spam (even if you read it it clearly
was on topic and not spam) , but I could object I'd only posted 2,
maybe 3, things (one twice with changes, but I still don't know how it
got to six.

And I still don't know if my question about noise filters for tv
antennas is "consumer" electonics or like how to find bad diodes, which
would be on topic.

OTOH, they have a "subreddit" called spinalcordstimulator and I don't
know where else in the whole world you could find people to discuss
that, and it's a mucho important topic to those who have one or are
about to.

It is apparently very easy to start a "subreddit" on maybe any topic. I
don't know where the bots come from or the humans who eventually oversee
them.
Even alt ngs were never as easy to start. OTOH, and this is so
important, it's so very easy with a ng reader to look at all the topics
and choose those that interests you. I never found a good medical ng --
was there one? -- but but you could have one for all medicine, or one
for each standard medical specialty.
And with usenet, all the quesstions are there and all the replies.
With all the other fora, they send you an email, you have to open the
mail, click on it, and devot a browswer tab to it. Plus the one or two
you had to have to ask the question, and then if you want to look at it
again, you have to find the tab, And I have far too many tabs already..
Web fora are so inefficient. With a newsgroup reader, you can find a
thread easily. Plus there is no moderation except in
misc.legal.moderated and maybe a few more I've never noticed.

And I haven't found a list of all the subs. Instead I google a topic
with the word reddit to see the names that come up. But I did that last
night: TV interference, subreddit. and most hits were for cutthecord,
but when I posted there, the bot cancelled me twice, I do't remember
why.

The suggestions of how to find the right sub are lengthy and some are
absurd,
https://old.reddit.com/r/findareddit/comments/12bkfp/meta_guide_to_finding_subreddits/

Different subreddits have different rules. Spinalcordstiumulator has
never cancelled me. .
.
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Post by micky
They're social because they involve people, but people don't make
friends on any of them, normally. And people don't talk about little
or even big things that happen in their personal lives much, and when
once in a while I do, most people are bored and ignore them in any
replies they make.
To me that means it's not social.
There was a time when Usenet was primarily academic rather than
social, but that time is long past. And there always was a social
element. Interactions between people vary depending on the nature of
particular newsgroups, but it is the same with other social media
platforms like Facebook.
I red one newsgroup that actually had two get togethers over a couple
years. ONe in NYC that I went to from Baltimore and about 15 of us had
dinner together, and one I could not go to. But people wandered away
and the ggoup folded. I guess that one was social. A travel forum,
what's the big onet called, TripAdvisor, had a get-together in another
country and about 6 of us went to a restaurant. About half were locals
one of whom answered 25% of all the questions asked, and half tourists.
Post by Steve Hayes
Post by micky
But if some webpage that matters to me asks how I heard about it, and I
say "internet" but NOT through social media, they will likely think its
a page with good or bad informative text but no way for readers to
reply. That Usenet and Reddit do allow replies, depend on replies, sort
of makes them *social* media.
So all in all, in your opinion, are Usenet and Reddit social media?
s|b
2024-12-17 17:38:36 UTC
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Fishrrman
2024-12-18 01:31:54 UTC
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Post by micky
I need
to know if you all think Usenet is social media?
Usenet was social media before THERE WAS "social media" ...

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