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Henry Bodkin
2024-10-29 19:46:29 UTC
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Trump campaign struggles to contain Puerto Rico October surprise

The Trump campaign is struggling to contain an October surprise of its own
making, just one week from Election Day.

A racist remark by comedian Tony Hinchcliffe, one of many warm-up speakers
for former President Trump at a Sunday rally in New York’s Madison Square
Garden, is reverberating hard.

Vice President Harris and other Democrats are working to make sure the gibe
reaches the ears of as many Latino voters as possible — especially in the
swing states that will decide the election.

Republicans, including Trump’s running mate, Sen. JD Vance (Ohio), are
trying to minimize the damage — either by distancing themselves from what
Hinchcliffe said or by suggesting that a remark made in jest should not
spark such outrage.

At the rally, Hinchcliffe referred to Puerto Rico as a “floating island of
garbage.” He also used other racist tropes including a reference to Black
people and watermelons, and a crude reference linking procreation and
immigration.

The comments were slammed as offensive in their own right. But they could
also have serious electoral repercussions.

More than 400,000 people born in Puerto Rico or of Puerto Rican descent
live in Pennsylvania, the largest of the seven battleground states. The
state is essentially deadlocked, with Trump leading Harris by just four-
tenths of a percentage point in the polling average maintained by The
Hill/Decision Desk HQ.

There are also tens of thousands of Puerto Ricans in other swing states,
including Arizona, Georgia and North Carolina.

Democratic operative Chuck Rocha, an expert on the Latino vote, told this
column that he and a super PAC he advises, Nuestro PAC, had sent clips of
Hinchcliffe’s remarks “to every Puerto Rican voter in Pennsylvania” on
Monday.

Referring to the uproar and its effect on Trump’s campaign, Rocha added,
“It’s an unforced error from a campaign that has no strategic vision.
Puerto Rican voters are very sensitive about their island and how you talk
about their island — whether they themselves live on that island or in
Allentown.”

Allentown, about 50 miles north of Philadelphia, is described by The
Philadelphia Inquirer as “a majority Latino city and home to 34,000 Puerto
Ricans — the eighth-largest Puerto Rican community in America.”

Harris has been turning the screws on Trump over the remark.

The vice president on Monday cited Trump’s New York event as having
“highlighted a point that I’ve been making throughout this campaign. … He
is focused and actually fixated on his grievances, on himself and on
dividing our country.”

Her campaign also launched a digital ad aimed at Latino voters that began
with Hinchcliffe’s words and asserted that “Puerto Ricans deserve better.”

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), who is of Puerto Rican descent,
described the Madison Square Garden rally as a “hate rally” during an
interview on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” on Monday morning.

On social media, Ocasio-Cortez hit back at Hinchcliffe’s defense that
“these people have no sense of humor” and that his joke had been “taken out
of context to make it seem racist.”

The New York congresswoman accused the comic of “feeding red-meat racism
alongside a throng of other bigots to a frothing crowd.”

The reaction from the Trump campaign — and from the GOP more broadly —
suggests they are well aware of the potential damage from the furor.

Trump campaign senior adviser Danielle Alvarez told media outlets that the
comic’s comments did not “reflect the views” of the former president or his
campaign.

Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.), whose state is home to more than 1 million people
of Puerto Rican descent, responded almost instantly to the controversy
Sunday evening, with a post on the social platform X saying the joke was
“not funny and it’s not true.”

Scott added that Puerto Ricans are “amazing people and amazing Americans.”

Also on social media, Rep. Anthony D’Esposito (R-N.Y.) noted he was “proud
to be Puerto Rican,” adding “the only thing that’s ‘garbage’ was a bad
comedy set.”

Meanwhile, Vance said at a rally Monday that he had “heard about” though
not “seen” Hinchcliffe’s joke, but that he was “so over” people taking
offense easily.

To be sure, it’s possible that the furor does not dent Trump’s chances.

The former president has not yet weighed in on the matter directly, but he
could disavow the comments or simply hope that the controversy fades, as so
many revolving around him have done in the past.

The Trump campaign continues to believe it can do better with Latino
voters, especially young men, than GOP nominees have done in the recent
past. Pro-Trump voices contend there are economic and cultural reasons why
Latinos are drawn to his platform.

But Democrats counter that the Puerto Rico controversy is especially potent
for several reasons: the swing states’ demographics, the capacity of other
non-Puerto Rican Latinos to take offense at the remarks, and of course the
proximity to Election Day.

According to José Parra, a Democratic strategist and a former senior
adviser to former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.): “If
Pennsylvania swings toward the Democrats, I think you can look back on this
as a pivotal moment.”



https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4958098-the-memo-trump-campaign-
struggles-to-contain-puerto-rico-october-surprise/
Citizen Winston Smith
2024-10-29 20:14:38 UTC
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Puerto Rico October surprise
STFU Rudey, you forging ass canker.
T
2024-10-30 00:41:00 UTC
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Puerto Rico October surprise
STFU Rudey, you forging ass canker.
Interesting. "Puerto Rico" has now become a "race".
Hmm, they should inform all those whites, black,
Hispanics and wo knows what else in Puerto Rico that
they are now officially a "race" of their own.

And Puerto Rico is a corrupt trash heap.
Ed P
2024-10-30 01:43:59 UTC
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Post by Henry Bodkin
Puerto Rico October surprise
STFU Rudey, you forging ass canker.
Interesting.  "Puerto Rico" has now become a "race".
Hmm, they should inform all those whites, black,
Hispanics and wo knows what else in Puerto Rico that
they are now officially a "race" of their own.
And Puerto Rico is a corrupt trash heap.
Many of them in the US vote. I imagine many of them won't be voting for
the guy that had a rally calling their homeland a garbage heap. That
was incredibly stupid.
T
2024-10-30 03:50:16 UTC
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Puerto Rico October surprise
STFU Rudey, you forging ass canker.
Interesting.  "Puerto Rico" has now become a "race".
Hmm, they should inform all those whites, black,
Hispanics and wo knows what else in Puerto Rico that
they are now officially a "race" of their own.
And Puerto Rico is a corrupt trash heap.
Many of them in the US vote.  I imagine many of them won't be voting for
the guy that had a rally calling their homeland a garbage heap.  That
was incredibly stupid.
They are well aware of the corruption in the homeland.
Why do you think they left?
Frank
2024-10-30 11:21:16 UTC
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Puerto Rico October surprise
STFU Rudey, you forging ass canker.
Interesting.  "Puerto Rico" has now become a "race".
Hmm, they should inform all those whites, black,
Hispanics and wo knows what else in Puerto Rico that
they are now officially a "race" of their own.
And Puerto Rico is a corrupt trash heap.
Many of them in the US vote.  I imagine many of them won't be voting
for the guy that had a rally calling their homeland a garbage heap.
That was incredibly stupid.
They are well aware of the corruption in the homeland.
Why do you think they left?
It all started under Clinton when Puerto Rico lost its favored status as
a place to manufacture pharmaceuticals and chemicals and continues under
a corrupt democrat governor. I had Puerto Rican neighbors in
pharmaceutical jobs that left for the states to pursue jobs. Told me
middle class was leaving as poor could not afford to leave and rich
could afford to stay.
Ed P
2024-10-30 13:24:50 UTC
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And Puerto Rico is a corrupt trash heap.
Many of them in the US vote.  I imagine many of them won't be voting
for the guy that had a rally calling their homeland a garbage heap.
That was incredibly stupid.
They are well aware of the corruption in the homeland.
Why do you think they left?
So they could become US citizens and vote for Kamala. Still not smart
to deride their heritage.
Baxter
2024-10-30 14:36:41 UTC
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And Puerto Rico is a corrupt trash heap.
Many of them in the US vote.  I imagine many of them won't be voting
for the guy that had a rally calling their homeland a garbage heap.
That was incredibly stupid.
They are well aware of the corruption in the homeland.
Why do you think they left?
So they could become US citizens and vote for Kamala. Still not smart
to deride their heritage.
Some conspiracy theories are too stupid to bother with.
Skeeter
2024-10-30 14:57:05 UTC
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Post by Baxter
Post by Ed P
Post by T
Post by T
And Puerto Rico is a corrupt trash heap.
Many of them in the US vote.  I imagine many of them won't be voting
for the guy that had a rally calling their homeland a garbage heap.
That was incredibly stupid.
They are well aware of the corruption in the homeland.
Why do you think they left?
So they could become US citizens and vote for Kamala. Still not smart
to deride their heritage.
Some conspiracy theories are too stupid to bother with.
But not the truth.
Baxter
2024-10-30 15:10:42 UTC
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Post by Baxter
Post by Ed P
Post by T
Post by T
And Puerto Rico is a corrupt trash heap.
Many of them in the US vote.  I imagine many of them won't be
voting for the guy that had a rally calling their homeland a
garbage heap. That was incredibly stupid.
They are well aware of the corruption in the homeland.
Why do you think they left?
So they could become US citizens and vote for Kamala. Still not
smart to deride their heritage.
Some conspiracy theories are too stupid to bother with.
But not the truth.
What truth? Nothing in your response was true - start with: Puerto
Ricians did not come to the US to "become citizens", they ARE ALL
citizens. And the ones in PA, NY and other states have been here a long
time, they did NOT "come to the US to vote for Kamala" - many of them
intended to vote for trump until their homeland was called a "floating
garbage heap". And you're too stupid to understand.
Skeeter
2024-10-30 16:20:36 UTC
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Post by Baxter
Post by Ed P
Post by T
Post by T
And Puerto Rico is a corrupt trash heap.
Many of them in the US vote.  I imagine many of them won't be
voting for the guy that had a rally calling their homeland a
garbage heap. That was incredibly stupid.
They are well aware of the corruption in the homeland.
Why do you think they left?
So they could become US citizens and vote for Kamala. Still not
smart to deride their heritage.
Some conspiracy theories are too stupid to bother with.
But not the truth.
What truth? Nothing in your response was true - start with: Puerto
Ricians did not come to the US to "become citizens", they ARE ALL
citizens. And the ones in PA, NY and other states have been here a long
time, they did NOT "come to the US to vote for Kamala" - many of them
intended to vote for trump until their homeland was called a "floating
garbage heap". And you're too stupid to understand.
I never said any of that shit. Do try to keep up. PR is a garbage dump
due to bad infrastructure and crooked leaders. Even PR people here admit
that. They had a Trump parade in PR yesterday for Trump. Suck on that.
Governor Swill
2024-10-31 00:56:24 UTC
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And Puerto Rico is a corrupt trash heap.
Many of them in the US vote.  I imagine many of them won't be voting
for the guy that had a rally calling their homeland a garbage heap.
That was incredibly stupid.
They are well aware of the corruption in the homeland.
Why do you think they left?
So they could become US citizens and vote for Kamala. Still not smart
to deride their heritage.
They already *are* American citizens.
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Gronk
2024-11-04 05:51:16 UTC
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Post by T
And Puerto Rico is a corrupt trash heap.
Many of them in the US vote.  I imagine many of them won't be voting
for the guy that had a rally calling their homeland a garbage heap.
That was incredibly stupid.
They are well aware of the corruption in the homeland.
Why do you think they left?
So they could become US citizens and vote for Kamala. Still not smart
to deride their heritage.
They already *are* American citizens.
Great Crom. Magats are low info, low IQ, low morals...

And talk about ingratitude - didn't even thank
you for the correction.
Ed P
2024-11-04 13:58:01 UTC
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And Puerto Rico is a corrupt trash heap.
Many of them in the US vote.  I imagine many of them won't be voting
for the guy that had a rally calling their homeland a garbage heap.
That was incredibly stupid.
They are well aware of the corruption in the homeland.
Why do you think they left?
So they could become US citizens and vote for Kamala.  Still not smart
to deride their heritage.
They already *are* American citizens.
Great Crom. Magats are low info, low IQ, low morals...
And talk about ingratitude - didn't even thank
you for the correction.
What senators are from Puerto Rico? They don't have the same say in
government that we in the 50 states have.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_voting_rights_in_Puerto_Rico
micky
2024-11-04 05:27:22 UTC
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Post by T
Post by T
And Puerto Rico is a corrupt trash heap.
Many of them in the US vote.  I imagine many of them won't be voting
for the guy that had a rally calling their homeland a garbage heap.
That was incredibly stupid.
They are well aware of the corruption in the homeland.
Why do you think they left?
For ecomonic opporutnity, both for those in poverty and those doing
better, but still not as well as they think they could, and usually do,
in the US. The incentive doubled because of the damage from the
hurricane, for which trump tried to delay or prevent the aid they were
entitled to by law.

They don't come here because of corruption. People in many places
complain aobut corruption but it doesnt' make them move.

Within a given category, the ones who do move are the most ambitious and
hardworking.
Post by Ed P
So they could become US citizens and vote for Kamala. Still not smart
to deride their heritage.
AIUI, Puerto Ricans area already citizens, but PR itself has no
electoral votes. All hey have to to is move to one of the 50 states.
There are something like 300 or 350,000 register voters from PR or whose
parents or gparents were from PR in Pennslvania. and most have family or
friends still back there. That's why it's such a good idea to insult
the whole island as the "comic" did at MSG. If trump didn't hear what
he and others said that night, he's incompetent, but it's more likely
he's lying and was happy with what he said.

I think DC has electoral votes too, just no representation in
Congress.
Baxter
2024-10-30 14:35:15 UTC
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Puerto Rico October surprise
STFU Rudey, you forging ass canker.
Interesting.  "Puerto Rico" has now become a "race".
Hmm, they should inform all those whites, black,
Hispanics and wo knows what else in Puerto Rico that
they are now officially a "race" of their own.
And Puerto Rico is a corrupt trash heap.
Many of them in the US vote.  I imagine many of them won't be voting
for the guy that had a rally calling their homeland a garbage heap. 
That was incredibly stupid.
They are well aware of the corruption in the homeland.
Why do you think they left?
From Google AI:
===========
People leave Puerto Rico for a variety of reasons, including economic
conditions, hurricanes, and the aging population:

Economic conditions
High unemployment and a weak economy have prompted people to seek
better job opportunities elsewhere. The elimination of Section 936
created an economic crisis that accelerated the brain drain.

==========

See also"
https://www.newyorkfed.org/medialibrary/media/research/current_issues/ci2
0-4.pdf
Skeeter
2024-10-30 14:56:35 UTC
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Post by T
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Post by Henry Bodkin
Puerto Rico October surprise
STFU Rudey, you forging ass canker.
Interesting.  "Puerto Rico" has now become a "race".
Hmm, they should inform all those whites, black,
Hispanics and wo knows what else in Puerto Rico that
they are now officially a "race" of their own.
And Puerto Rico is a corrupt trash heap.
Many of them in the US vote.  I imagine many of them won't be voting
for the guy that had a rally calling their homeland a garbage heap. 
That was incredibly stupid.
They are well aware of the corruption in the homeland.
Why do you think they left?
===========
People leave Puerto Rico for a variety of reasons, including economic
Economic conditions
High unemployment and a weak economy have prompted people to seek
better job opportunities elsewhere. The elimination of Section 936
created an economic crisis that accelerated the brain drain.
==========
See also"
https://www.newyorkfed.org/medialibrary/media/research/current_issues/ci2
0-4.pdf
So? What's your point?
Skeeter
2024-10-30 14:05:00 UTC
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Puerto Rico October surprise
STFU Rudey, you forging ass canker.
Interesting.  "Puerto Rico" has now become a "race".
Hmm, they should inform all those whites, black,
Hispanics and wo knows what else in Puerto Rico that
they are now officially a "race" of their own.
And Puerto Rico is a corrupt trash heap.
Many of them in the US vote. I imagine many of them won't be voting for
the guy that had a rally calling their homeland a garbage heap. That
was incredibly stupid.
It is a garbage heap.
Baxter
2024-10-30 14:37:51 UTC
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Puerto Rico October surprise
STFU Rudey, you forging ass canker.
Interesting.  "Puerto Rico" has now become a "race".
Hmm, they should inform all those whites, black,
Hispanics and wo knows what else in Puerto Rico that
they are now officially a "race" of their own.
And Puerto Rico is a corrupt trash heap.
Many of them in the US vote. I imagine many of them won't be voting
for the guy that had a rally calling their homeland a garbage heap.
That was incredibly stupid.
It is a garbage heap.
Skeeter the racist pig.
Skeeter
2024-10-30 14:55:14 UTC
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Post by Ed P
Post by Citizen Winston Smith
Post by Henry Bodkin
Puerto Rico October surprise
STFU Rudey, you forging ass canker.
Interesting.  "Puerto Rico" has now become a "race".
Hmm, they should inform all those whites, black,
Hispanics and wo knows what else in Puerto Rico that
they are now officially a "race" of their own.
And Puerto Rico is a corrupt trash heap.
Many of them in the US vote. I imagine many of them won't be voting
for the guy that had a rally calling their homeland a garbage heap.
That was incredibly stupid.
It is a garbage heap.
Skeeter the racist pig.
Detroit is a cesspool too. Nothing racist about that. Only racists see
race in everything.
Skeeter
2024-10-30 16:18:16 UTC
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Post by Baxter
Post by Skeeter
Post by Ed P
Post by Citizen Winston Smith
Post by Henry Bodkin
Puerto Rico October surprise
STFU Rudey, you forging ass canker.
Interesting.  "Puerto Rico" has now become a "race".
Hmm, they should inform all those whites, black,
Hispanics and wo knows what else in Puerto Rico that
they are now officially a "race" of their own.
And Puerto Rico is a corrupt trash heap.
Many of them in the US vote. I imagine many of them won't be
voting
Post by Skeeter
Post by Baxter
Post by Skeeter
Post by Ed P
for the guy that had a rally calling their homeland a garbage heap.
That was incredibly stupid.
It is a garbage heap.
Skeeter the racist pig.
Detroit is a cesspool too. Nothing racist about that. Only racists see
race in everything.
skeeter is defensive about his racism - and the garbage can he lives in.
Baxter runs away playing the race card. Now explain why Harris told
people ate her rally "you're at the wrong rally" when they yelled "Jesus
is Lord"? Why did Joe say that half the people are garbage?
Baxter
2024-10-30 14:47:31 UTC
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Puerto Rico October surprise
STFU Rudey, you forging ass canker.
Interesting.  "Puerto Rico" has now become a "race".
Hmm, they should inform all those whites, black,
Hispanics and wo knows what else in Puerto Rico that
they are now officially a "race" of their own.
And Puerto Rico is a corrupt trash heap.
Many of them in the US vote. I imagine many of them won't be voting
for the guy that had a rally calling their homeland a garbage heap.
That was incredibly stupid.
It is a garbage heap.
And tRump called Colorado a "garbage can". Not "treated like a garbage
can", but IS a garbage can.
Skeeter
2024-10-30 14:55:44 UTC
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Post by Ed P
Post by Citizen Winston Smith
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Puerto Rico October surprise
STFU Rudey, you forging ass canker.
Interesting.  "Puerto Rico" has now become a "race".
Hmm, they should inform all those whites, black,
Hispanics and wo knows what else in Puerto Rico that
they are now officially a "race" of their own.
And Puerto Rico is a corrupt trash heap.
Many of them in the US vote. I imagine many of them won't be voting
for the guy that had a rally calling their homeland a garbage heap.
That was incredibly stupid.
It is a garbage heap.
And tRump called Colorado a "garbage can". Not "treated like a garbage
can", but IS a garbage can.
<blink> Huh?
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