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List of countries by tariff rate
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Ketanji Kornrows
2025-03-06 01:02:27 UTC
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This data is from Leftipedia:

This is a list of countries by tariff rate. The list includes sovereign states and self-governing dependent territories based upon the ISO
standard ISO 3166-1. Import duty refers to taxes levied on imported goods, capital and services. The level of customs duties is a direct
indicator of the openness of an economy to world trade. However, there may also be import barriers that are not based on the levy of duties. The
following table shows the tariff rate, in percentages, according to United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD),[1] World Trade
Organization,[2] and World Bank.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tariff_rate


Virtually everyone has tariffs but only orange man bad.
Ed P
2025-03-06 01:37:21 UTC
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This is a list of countries by tariff rate. The list includes sovereign
states and self-governing dependent territories based upon the ISO
standard ISO 3166-1. Import duty refers to taxes levied on imported
goods, capital and services. The level of customs duties is a direct
indicator of the openness of an economy to world trade. However, there
may also be import barriers that are not based on the levy of duties.
The following table shows the tariff rate, in percentages, according to
United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD),[1] World
Trade Organization,[2] and World Bank.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tariff_rate
Virtually everyone has tariffs but only orange man bad.
None of them are 25%. Last term Trump negotiated the "best trade
agreement ever" with Canada. Why is it no good now?

This is Trump and his handler.
https://postimg.cc/hfDPnWsW
Rachael Madcow
2025-03-06 11:32:52 UTC
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This is a list of countries by tariff rate. The list includes sovereign states and self-governing dependent territories based upon the ISO
standard ISO 3166-1. Import duty refers to taxes levied on imported goods, capital and services. The level of customs duties is a direct
indicator of the openness of an economy to world trade. However, there may also be import barriers that are not based on the levy of duties.
The following table shows the tariff rate, in percentages, according to United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD),[1] World
Trade Organization,[2] and World Bank.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tariff_rate
Virtually everyone has tariffs but only orange man bad.
None of them are 25%.  Last term Trump negotiated the "best trade agreement ever" with Canada.  Why is it no good now?
This is Trump and his handler.
https://postimg.cc/hfDPnWsW
The libturd Democrats warn us that burning fossil fuels causes climate change yet the globalist basturds burn billions of gallons of dinosaur
juice shipping products across the oceans.

Maybe it's time to level the playing field and build stuff at home? MAGA
Cindy Hamilton
2025-03-06 12:16:11 UTC
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This is a list of countries by tariff rate. The list includes sovereign states and self-governing dependent territories based upon the ISO
standard ISO 3166-1. Import duty refers to taxes levied on imported goods, capital and services. The level of customs duties is a direct
indicator of the openness of an economy to world trade. However, there may also be import barriers that are not based on the levy of duties.
The following table shows the tariff rate, in percentages, according to United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD),[1] World
Trade Organization,[2] and World Bank.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tariff_rate
Virtually everyone has tariffs but only orange man bad.
None of them are 25%.  Last term Trump negotiated the "best trade agreement ever" with Canada.  Why is it no good now?
This is Trump and his handler.
https://postimg.cc/hfDPnWsW
The libturd Democrats warn us that burning fossil fuels causes climate change yet the globalist basturds burn billions of gallons of dinosaur
juice shipping products across the oceans.
Maybe it's time to level the playing field and build stuff at home? MAGA
Sure. How much are you going to invest in a new factory?
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Cindy Hamilton
Carlos E.R.
2025-03-06 12:35:32 UTC
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This is a list of countries by tariff rate. The list includes sovereign states and self-governing dependent territories based upon the ISO
standard ISO 3166-1. Import duty refers to taxes levied on imported goods, capital and services. The level of customs duties is a direct
indicator of the openness of an economy to world trade. However, there may also be import barriers that are not based on the levy of duties.
The following table shows the tariff rate, in percentages, according to United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD),[1] World
Trade Organization,[2] and World Bank.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tariff_rate
Virtually everyone has tariffs but only orange man bad.
None of them are 25%.  Last term Trump negotiated the "best trade agreement ever" with Canada.  Why is it no good now?
This is Trump and his handler.
https://postimg.cc/hfDPnWsW
The libturd Democrats warn us that burning fossil fuels causes climate change yet the globalist basturds burn billions of gallons of dinosaur
juice shipping products across the oceans.
Maybe it's time to level the playing field and build stuff at home? MAGA
Sure. How much are you going to invest in a new factory?
And how are you going to get the cheap labour?
--
Cheers, Carlos.
Cindy Hamilton
2025-03-06 13:47:30 UTC
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This is a list of countries by tariff rate. The list includes sovereign states and self-governing dependent territories based upon the ISO
standard ISO 3166-1. Import duty refers to taxes levied on imported goods, capital and services. The level of customs duties is a direct
indicator of the openness of an economy to world trade. However, there may also be import barriers that are not based on the levy of duties.
The following table shows the tariff rate, in percentages, according to United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD),[1] World
Trade Organization,[2] and World Bank.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tariff_rate
Virtually everyone has tariffs but only orange man bad.
None of them are 25%.  Last term Trump negotiated the "best trade agreement ever" with Canada.  Why is it no good now?
This is Trump and his handler.
https://postimg.cc/hfDPnWsW
The libturd Democrats warn us that burning fossil fuels causes climate change yet the globalist basturds burn billions of gallons of dinosaur
juice shipping products across the oceans.
Maybe it's time to level the playing field and build stuff at home? MAGA
Sure. How much are you going to invest in a new factory?
And how are you going to get the cheap labour?
In fact, any factory built in the U.S. would rely heavily on
automation, and not produce as many jobs as "Rachael" thinks.
--
Cindy Hamilton
Carlos E.R.
2025-03-06 18:42:52 UTC
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This is a list of countries by tariff rate. The list includes sovereign states and self-governing dependent territories based upon the ISO
standard ISO 3166-1. Import duty refers to taxes levied on imported goods, capital and services. The level of customs duties is a direct
indicator of the openness of an economy to world trade. However, there may also be import barriers that are not based on the levy of duties.
The following table shows the tariff rate, in percentages, according to United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD),[1] World
Trade Organization,[2] and World Bank.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tariff_rate
Virtually everyone has tariffs but only orange man bad.
None of them are 25%.  Last term Trump negotiated the "best trade agreement ever" with Canada.  Why is it no good now?
This is Trump and his handler.
https://postimg.cc/hfDPnWsW
The libturd Democrats warn us that burning fossil fuels causes climate change yet the globalist basturds burn billions of gallons of dinosaur
juice shipping products across the oceans.
Maybe it's time to level the playing field and build stuff at home? MAGA
Sure. How much are you going to invest in a new factory?
And how are you going to get the cheap labour?
In fact, any factory built in the U.S. would rely heavily on
automation, and not produce as many jobs as "Rachael" thinks.
In which case, it bodes badly for people, which will be out of work in
the future. You have to design a society in which many of its members do
not have profitable jobs.

Factories need either cheap "slaves" or automation to the extreme, in
order to be able to compete. Otherwise, what they produce will be
expensive and the people will not be able to afford to buy products.
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Cheers, Carlos.
rbowman
2025-03-06 21:19:47 UTC
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In which case, it bodes badly for people, which will be out of work in
the future. You have to design a society in which many of its members do
not have profitable jobs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_Piano_(novel)

Vonnegut nailed it over 70 years ago. I happened upon the book in the high
school library in the early '60s before Vonnegut was popular. It may have
been selected for the local color since it was the Ilium High School. It
gave me much to think about since I was on track to become one of the
engineers as seen in the novel.

I've pondered most of my life on what you do with people who have no real
purpose in society.
Whoopie Oldturd
2025-03-07 11:56:00 UTC
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Post by Carlos E.R.
In which case, it bodes badly for people, which will be out of work in
the future. You have to design a society in which many of its members do
not have profitable jobs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_Piano_(novel)
Vonnegut nailed it over 70 years ago. I happened upon the book in the high
school library in the early '60s before Vonnegut was popular. It may have
been selected for the local color since it was the Ilium High School. It
gave me much to think about since I was on track to become one of the
engineers as seen in the novel.
I've pondered most of my life on what you do with people who have no real
purpose in society.
Give them federal six-figure jobs so they can work from home in their pajamas?
sapiens
2025-03-09 18:14:07 UTC
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Post by Carlos E.R.
In which case, it bodes badly for people, which will be out of work in
the future. You have to design a society in which many of its members do
not have profitable jobs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_Piano_(novel)
Vonnegut nailed it over 70 years ago. I happened upon the book in the high
school library in the early '60s before Vonnegut was popular. It may have
been selected for the local color since it was the Ilium High School. It
gave me much to think about since I was on track to become one of the
engineers as seen in the novel.
I've pondered most of my life on what you do with people who have no real
purpose in society.
They need a Dwayne Hoover to love them!
--
sapiens
T
2025-03-06 21:22:18 UTC
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This is a list of countries by tariff rate. The list includes
sovereign states and self-governing dependent territories based
upon the ISO
standard ISO 3166-1. Import duty refers to taxes levied on
imported goods, capital and services. The level of customs duties
is a direct
indicator of the openness of an economy to world trade. However,
there may also be import barriers that are not based on the levy
of duties.
The following table shows the tariff rate, in percentages,
according to United Nations Conference on Trade and Development
(UNCTAD),[1] World
Trade Organization,[2] and World Bank.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tariff_rate
Virtually everyone has tariffs but only orange man bad.
None of them are 25%.  Last term Trump negotiated the "best trade
agreement ever" with Canada.  Why is it no good now?
This is Trump and his handler.
https://postimg.cc/hfDPnWsW
The libturd Democrats warn us that burning fossil fuels causes
climate change yet the globalist basturds burn billions of gallons
of dinosaur
juice shipping products across the oceans.
Maybe it's time to level the playing field and build stuff at
home?  MAGA
Sure.  How much are you going to invest in a new factory?
And how are you going to get the cheap labour?
In fact, any factory built in the U.S. would rely heavily on
automation, and not produce as many jobs as "Rachael" thinks.
In which case, it bodes badly for people, which will be out of work in
the future. You have to design a society in which many of its members do
not have profitable jobs.
Factories need either cheap "slaves" or automation to the extreme, in
order to be able to compete. Otherwise, what they produce will be
expensive and the people will not be able to afford to buy products.
Guys! I drive a Japanese car that was made in America
by the United Auto Workers. American hands build my car.

Guess how that happened? Regan's tariffs. The Japanese
got tired of paying them and they moved their manufacturing
to America. MAGA.

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Roger Rhino
2025-03-07 00:13:50 UTC
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This is a list of countries by tariff rate. The list includes sovereign states and self-governing dependent territories based upon the ISO
standard ISO 3166-1. Import duty refers to taxes levied on imported goods, capital and services. The level of customs duties is a direct
indicator of the openness of an economy to world trade. However, there may also be import barriers that are not based on the levy of duties.
The following table shows the tariff rate, in percentages, according to United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD),[1] World
Trade Organization,[2] and World Bank.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tariff_rate
Virtually everyone has tariffs but only orange man bad.
None of them are 25%.  Last term Trump negotiated the "best trade agreement ever" with Canada.  Why is it no good now?
This is Trump and his handler.
https://postimg.cc/hfDPnWsW
The libturd Democrats warn us that burning fossil fuels causes climate change yet the globalist basturds burn billions of gallons of dinosaur
juice shipping products across the oceans.
Maybe it's time to level the playing field and build stuff at home? MAGA
Sure. How much are you going to invest in a new factory?
And how are you going to get the cheap labour?
In fact, any factory built in the U.S. would rely heavily on
automation, and not produce as many jobs as "Rachael" thinks.
In which case, it bodes badly for people, which will be out of work in
the future. You have to design a society in which many of its members do
not have profitable jobs.
In the long history of automation in America, it has always directly or
indirectly produced a net increase in jobs. They are more fulfilling
than those repetitive factory worker jobs.
Post by Carlos E.R.
Factories need either cheap "slaves" or automation to the extreme, in
order to be able to compete. Otherwise, what they produce will be
expensive and the people will not be able to afford to buy products.
By the time President Musk is done making America great again, there
will be destitute magans lining up for those $2/hour factory jobs.
rbowman
2025-03-07 02:31:12 UTC
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In the long history of automation in America, it has always directly or
indirectly produced a net increase in jobs. They are more fulfilling
than those repetitive factory worker jobs.
The first robot I saw in action was a Unimate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unimate

It was at the GE watt-hour meter plant and handling the die-casting of
meter bases. It could place the magnets in the mold, wait until the molten
metal had been injected and the mold open, retrieve the base, knock the
sprues off, and toss it into a cart. It was impressive.

It also displaced the worker who had probably been getting a decent wage
doing a job that sucked. It was hot, dirty, and required wearing awkward
protection gear. Was that a step forward?

That was in the early '70s. We were installing automated phenolic molding
systems that weren't as dramatic but also cut jobs. Later years?

https://www.fosters.com/story/business/2016/06/12/rise-and-fall-of-
general-electric-in-somersworth/27803271007/

NAFTA went into effect and most of the employees were fired. Eventually
production moved to Pasteje, Mexico.

Aclara last five years after they bought the facility.

https://www.fosters.com/story/news/2020/02/13/aclara-to-cease-production-
in-somersworth/1708892007/

Anybody want to buy a white elephant? Or how about a town? There never
was much in Somersworth besides the plant. (and the Frog Pond bar, but
that's another story)
Roger Rhino
2025-03-08 09:12:30 UTC
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In the long history of automation in America, it has always directly or
indirectly produced a net increase in jobs. They are more fulfilling
than those repetitive factory worker jobs.
The first robot I saw in action was a Unimate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unimate
It was at the GE watt-hour meter plant and handling the die-casting of
meter bases. It could place the magnets in the mold, wait until the molten
metal had been injected and the mold open, retrieve the base, knock the
sprues off, and toss it into a cart. It was impressive.
It also displaced the worker who had probably been getting a decent wage
doing a job that sucked. It was hot, dirty, and required wearing awkward
protection gear. Was that a step forward?
For that worker, probably not because he could have quit on his own if
he wanted. A relatively paltry amount of wages would have been spent on
the engineers and technicians who produced the unimate. But that is all
minor.

The real value was that the bot allowed GE to sell watt meters cheaper
to electric utilities, lowering the cost to consumers, allowing them to
spend money on chevys and Buddy Holly records, creating better jobs than
the one eliminated.

The net result of automation is not unemployment. If it were otherwise,
the unemployment rate today would be 90+%, not 4.1%. Automation also
delayed the inevitable relocation of the factory to Mexico.
Post by rbowman
That was in the early '70s. We were installing automated phenolic molding
systems that weren't as dramatic but also cut jobs. Later years?
https://www.fosters.com/story/business/2016/06/12/rise-and-fall-of-
general-electric-in-somersworth/27803271007/
NAFTA went into effect and most of the employees were fired. Eventually
production moved to Pasteje, Mexico.
Free trade is beneficial to the economies on both sides. Protectionism
is counter-productive. Even Trump knows that, but it can't be reduced to
jingoism so it's more appealing to disregard facts.

Smoot-Hawley, anyone?
Post by rbowman
Aclara last five years after they bought the facility.
https://www.fosters.com/story/news/2020/02/13/aclara-to-cease-production-
in-somersworth/1708892007/
Anybody want to buy a white elephant? Or how about a town? There never
was much in Somersworth besides the plant. (and the Frog Pond bar, but
that's another story)
Cindy Hamilton
2025-03-08 10:42:14 UTC
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Free trade is beneficial to the economies on both sides. Protectionism
is counter-productive. Even Trump knows that, but it can't be reduced to
jingoism so it's more appealing to disregard facts.
It can be a little difficult on individuals, though. What do you
do with a man who didn't graduate from high school and is unsuited
to the demands of a job that requires more than counting on his
fingers?

Decades ago, I knew a guy who worked at GM whose entire job consisted
of pushing a button when a part arrived at his station.
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Cindy Hamilton
rbowman
2025-03-08 20:53:03 UTC
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Free trade is beneficial to the economies on both sides. Protectionism
is counter-productive. Even Trump knows that, but it can't be reduced
to jingoism so it's more appealing to disregard facts.
It can be a little difficult on individuals, though. What do you do
with a man who didn't graduate from high school and is unsuited to the
demands of a job that requires more than counting on his fingers?
Decades ago, I knew a guy who worked at GM whose entire job consisted of
pushing a button when a part arrived at his station.
That was the flip side of Ford's manufacturing innovations. He claimed any
given worker could be easily replaced. otoh he instituted the 40 hour week
and $5 a day pay realizing the workers had to be able to buy what they
produced. That philosophy worked well until the unions wanted more and
more and the Dodge brothers argued the only purpose of a company was to
make the stockholders rich.

Globalization has changed the game slightly. US workers can afford to buy
the products produced in Vietnamese and Chinese sweatshops. The Vietnamese
and Chinese workers can't. And the stockholders get richer.
Rachael Madcow
2025-03-07 12:06:13 UTC
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This is a list of countries by tariff rate. The list includes sovereign states and self-governing dependent territories based upon the ISO
standard ISO 3166-1. Import duty refers to taxes levied on imported goods, capital and services. The level of customs duties is a direct
indicator of the openness of an economy to world trade. However, there may also be import barriers that are not based on the levy of duties.
The following table shows the tariff rate, in percentages, according to United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD),[1] World
Trade Organization,[2] and World Bank.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tariff_rate
Virtually everyone has tariffs but only orange man bad.
None of them are 25%.  Last term Trump negotiated the "best trade agreement ever" with Canada.  Why is it no good now?
This is Trump and his handler.
https://postimg.cc/hfDPnWsW
The libturd Democrats warn us that burning fossil fuels causes climate change yet the globalist basturds burn billions of gallons of dinosaur
juice shipping products across the oceans.
Maybe it's time to level the playing field and build stuff at home? MAGA
Sure. How much are you going to invest in a new factory?
And how are you going to get the cheap labour?
In fact, any factory built in the U.S. would rely heavily on
automation, and not produce as many jobs as "Rachael" thinks.
So it's better to buy cheap imported stuff from Harbor Fright?
Carlos E.R.
2025-03-07 12:32:39 UTC
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Post by Carlos E.R.
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Post by Ketanji Kornrows
This is a list of countries by tariff rate. The list includes
sovereign states and self-governing dependent territories based
upon the ISO
standard ISO 3166-1. Import duty refers to taxes levied on
imported goods, capital and services. The level of customs duties
is a direct
indicator of the openness of an economy to world trade. However,
there may also be import barriers that are not based on the levy
of duties.
The following table shows the tariff rate, in percentages,
according to United Nations Conference on Trade and Development
(UNCTAD),[1] World
Trade Organization,[2] and World Bank.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tariff_rate
Virtually everyone has tariffs but only orange man bad.
None of them are 25%.  Last term Trump negotiated the "best trade
agreement ever" with Canada.  Why is it no good now?
This is Trump and his handler.
https://postimg.cc/hfDPnWsW
The libturd Democrats warn us that burning fossil fuels causes
climate change yet the globalist basturds burn billions of gallons
of dinosaur
juice shipping products across the oceans.
Maybe it's time to level the playing field and build stuff at
home?  MAGA
Sure.  How much are you going to invest in a new factory?
And how are you going to get the cheap labour?
In fact, any factory built in the U.S. would rely heavily on
automation, and not produce as many jobs as "Rachael" thinks.
So it's better to buy cheap imported stuff from Harbor Fright?
Are you sure everybody is willing to pay more in order to buy local?
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Cheers, Carlos.
rbowman
2025-03-07 20:16:15 UTC
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Post by Ketanji Kornrows
This is a list of countries by tariff rate. The list includes
sovereign states and self-governing dependent territories based
upon the ISO standard ISO 3166-1. Import duty refers to taxes
levied on imported goods, capital and services. The level of
customs duties is a direct indicator of the openness of an
economy to world trade. However, there may also be import
barriers that are not based on the levy of duties.
The following table shows the tariff rate, in percentages,
according to United Nations Conference on Trade and Development
(UNCTAD),[1] World Trade Organization,[2] and World Bank.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tariff_rate
Virtually everyone has tariffs but only orange man bad.
None of them are 25%.  Last term Trump negotiated the "best trade
agreement ever" with Canada.  Why is it no good now?
This is Trump and his handler.
https://postimg.cc/hfDPnWsW
The libturd Democrats warn us that burning fossil fuels causes
climate change yet the globalist basturds burn billions of gallons
of dinosaur juice shipping products across the oceans.
Maybe it's time to level the playing field and build stuff at
home?  MAGA
Sure.  How much are you going to invest in a new factory?
And how are you going to get the cheap labour?
In fact, any factory built in the U.S. would rely heavily on
automation, and not produce as many jobs as "Rachael" thinks.
So it's better to buy cheap imported stuff from Harbor Fright?
Are you sure everybody is willing to pay more in order to buy local?
It's getting damn hard to buy USA products no matter how much you pay. I
was brought up to not buy Japanese products. That worked until the '80s
when bicycles, r/c models, fishing rods, and so forth were dominated by
Japanese products. It wasn't long before that applied to cars. Now it's
China's turn, or Bangladesh, Viet Nam, and so forth. Even brands like Red
Wing, Danner, and Buck have more imported products than domestic.
Ed P
2025-03-07 22:11:06 UTC
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Are you sure everybody is willing to pay more in order to buy local?
It's getting damn hard to buy USA products no matter how much you pay. I
was brought up to not buy Japanese products. That worked until the '80s
when bicycles, r/c models, fishing rods, and so forth were dominated by
Japanese products. It wasn't long before that applied to cars. Now it's
China's turn, or Bangladesh, Viet Nam, and so forth. Even brands like Red
Wing, Danner, and Buck have more imported products than domestic.
You were told that because the Japanese made junk. Until they didn't.
Edwards Deming got them on track to make excellent quality parts and
they they sold them to the rest of the world at a very good price.

Would I prefer to buy a US made product? Sure, show me a camera as good
as Nikon or Olympus.
rbowman
2025-03-08 01:14:59 UTC
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Are you sure everybody is willing to pay more in order to buy local?
It's getting damn hard to buy USA products no matter how much you pay.
I was brought up to not buy Japanese products. That worked until the
'80s when bicycles, r/c models, fishing rods, and so forth were
dominated by Japanese products. It wasn't long before that applied to
cars. Now it's China's turn, or Bangladesh, Viet Nam, and so forth.
Even brands like Red Wing, Danner, and Buck have more imported products
than domestic.
You were told that because the Japanese made junk. Until they didn't.
Edwards Deming got them on track to make excellent quality parts and
they they sold them to the rest of the world at a very good price.
No, I was told that because my brother was a USMC Airdale in the Pacific
theater. Family legend has it my mother bought some Christmas ornaments.
When my grandfather saw the Made in Japan sticker he smashed them all and
dumped them in the garbage.

Times change. In the '90s he came through in his Winnebago towing a Toyota
Tercel. "I never thought I would buy a Jap car" he said with a sheepish
grin.

I saw the same pattern with China. In the '70s they started showing up a
machine tool shows. Their machinery looked like it had been crafted from
an iron billet with an ax. Even their woks looked like an artisan project
involving a ball peen hammer.

They had a little help from people like the alleged traitors Jian Zhao, Li
Tian, and Ruoyu Duan. The investigation presumably was underway before
Patel became director but let's see what he does with them.
Rachael Madcow
2025-03-08 12:02:04 UTC
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This is a list of countries by tariff rate. The list includes sovereign states and self-governing dependent territories based upon the ISO
standard ISO 3166-1. Import duty refers to taxes levied on imported goods, capital and services. The level of customs duties is a direct
indicator of the openness of an economy to world trade. However, there may also be import barriers that are not based on the levy of
duties.
The following table shows the tariff rate, in percentages, according to United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD),[1]
World
Trade Organization,[2] and World Bank.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tariff_rate
Virtually everyone has tariffs but only orange man bad.
None of them are 25%.  Last term Trump negotiated the "best trade agreement ever" with Canada.  Why is it no good now?
This is Trump and his handler.
https://postimg.cc/hfDPnWsW
The libturd Democrats warn us that burning fossil fuels causes climate change yet the globalist basturds burn billions of gallons of dinosaur
juice shipping products across the oceans.
Maybe it's time to level the playing field and build stuff at home?  MAGA
Sure.  How much are you going to invest in a new factory?
And how are you going to get the cheap labour?
In fact, any factory built in the U.S. would rely heavily on
automation, and not produce as many jobs as "Rachael" thinks.
So it's better to buy cheap imported stuff from Harbor Fright?
Are you sure everybody is willing to pay more in order to buy local?
Automation. Automation. Automation.
Carlos E.R.
2025-03-08 14:55:41 UTC
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This is a list of countries by tariff rate. The list includes
sovereign states and self-governing dependent territories based
upon the ISO
standard ISO 3166-1. Import duty refers to taxes levied on
imported goods, capital and services. The level of customs
duties is a direct
indicator of the openness of an economy to world trade.
However, there may also be import barriers that are not based
on the levy of duties.
The following table shows the tariff rate, in percentages,
according to United Nations Conference on Trade and Development
(UNCTAD),[1] World
Trade Organization,[2] and World Bank.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tariff_rate
Virtually everyone has tariffs but only orange man bad.
None of them are 25%.  Last term Trump negotiated the "best
trade agreement ever" with Canada.  Why is it no good now?
This is Trump and his handler.
https://postimg.cc/hfDPnWsW
The libturd Democrats warn us that burning fossil fuels causes
climate change yet the globalist basturds burn billions of
gallons of dinosaur
juice shipping products across the oceans.
Maybe it's time to level the playing field and build stuff at home?  MAGA
Sure.  How much are you going to invest in a new factory?
And how are you going to get the cheap labour?
In fact, any factory built in the U.S. would rely heavily on
automation, and not produce as many jobs as "Rachael" thinks.
So it's better to buy cheap imported stuff from Harbor Fright?
Are you sure everybody is willing to pay more in order to buy local?
Automation. Automation. Automation.
Which means people out of jobs, so no money to buy things anyway.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
rbowman
2025-03-08 20:58:00 UTC
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This is a list of countries by tariff rate. The list includes
sovereign states and self-governing dependent territories based
upon the ISO standard ISO 3166-1. Import duty refers to taxes
levied on imported goods, capital and services. The level of
customs duties is a direct indicator of the openness of an
economy to world trade. However, there may also be import
barriers that are not based on the levy of duties.
The following table shows the tariff rate, in percentages,
according to United Nations Conference on Trade and Development
(UNCTAD),[1] World Trade Organization,[2] and World Bank.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tariff_rate
Virtually everyone has tariffs but only orange man bad.
None of them are 25%.  Last term Trump negotiated the "best trade
agreement ever" with Canada.  Why is it no good now?
This is Trump and his handler.
https://postimg.cc/hfDPnWsW
The libturd Democrats warn us that burning fossil fuels causes
climate change yet the globalist basturds burn billions of gallons
of dinosaur juice shipping products across the oceans.
Maybe it's time to level the playing field and build stuff at home?  MAGA
Sure.  How much are you going to invest in a new factory?
And how are you going to get the cheap labour?
In fact, any factory built in the U.S. would rely heavily on
automation, and not produce as many jobs as "Rachael" thinks.
So it's better to buy cheap imported stuff from Harbor Fright?
Are you sure everybody is willing to pay more in order to buy local?
Automation. Automation. Automation.
In the '70s automation in the US was starting to take off. Most capital
equipment had been acquired in the WWII boom and was tired. However the
capitalists did the calculations and decided it was better to ship the
worn out equipment to third world countries where cheap labor would make
up for any inefficiency.

As a side effect the US machine tool industry that was producing the
automated systems also declined as that technology was transferred to
Japan and now China.

Well done, oh leaders of the free world.
Carlos E.R.
2025-03-09 00:09:25 UTC
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This is a list of countries by tariff rate. The list includes
sovereign states and self-governing dependent territories based
upon the ISO standard ISO 3166-1. Import duty refers to taxes
levied on imported goods, capital and services. The level of
customs duties is a direct indicator of the openness of an
economy to world trade. However, there may also be import
barriers that are not based on the levy of duties.
The following table shows the tariff rate, in percentages,
according to United Nations Conference on Trade and Development
(UNCTAD),[1] World Trade Organization,[2] and World Bank.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tariff_rate
Virtually everyone has tariffs but only orange man bad.
None of them are 25%.  Last term Trump negotiated the "best trade
agreement ever" with Canada.  Why is it no good now?
This is Trump and his handler.
https://postimg.cc/hfDPnWsW
The libturd Democrats warn us that burning fossil fuels causes
climate change yet the globalist basturds burn billions of gallons
of dinosaur juice shipping products across the oceans.
Maybe it's time to level the playing field and build stuff at home?  MAGA
Sure.  How much are you going to invest in a new factory?
And how are you going to get the cheap labour?
In fact, any factory built in the U.S. would rely heavily on
automation, and not produce as many jobs as "Rachael" thinks.
So it's better to buy cheap imported stuff from Harbor Fright?
Are you sure everybody is willing to pay more in order to buy local?
Automation. Automation. Automation.
In the '70s automation in the US was starting to take off. Most capital
equipment had been acquired in the WWII boom and was tired. However the
capitalists did the calculations and decided it was better to ship the
worn out equipment to third world countries where cheap labor would make
up for any inefficiency.
As a side effect the US machine tool industry that was producing the
automated systems also declined as that technology was transferred to
Japan and now China.
Well done, oh leaders of the free world.
Leaders? No, just free enterprise and market forces.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
rbowman
2025-03-09 03:36:31 UTC
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Leaders? No, just free enterprise and market forces.
Yup. Maximize profit. Screw the country where you built your business.
Cindy Hamilton
2025-03-09 09:56:06 UTC
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Leaders? No, just free enterprise and market forces.
Yup. Maximize profit. Screw the country where you built your business.
The Gospel According to Milton Friedman.
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2025-03-07 13:57:18 UTC
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This is a list of countries by tariff rate. The list includes sovereign states and self-governing dependent territories based upon the ISO
standard ISO 3166-1. Import duty refers to taxes levied on imported goods, capital and services. The level of customs duties is a direct
indicator of the openness of an economy to world trade. However, there may also be import barriers that are not based on the levy of duties.
The following table shows the tariff rate, in percentages, according to United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD),[1] World
Trade Organization,[2] and World Bank.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tariff_rate
Virtually everyone has tariffs but only orange man bad.
None of them are 25%.  Last term Trump negotiated the "best trade agreement ever" with Canada.  Why is it no good now?
This is Trump and his handler.
https://postimg.cc/hfDPnWsW
The libturd Democrats warn us that burning fossil fuels causes climate change yet the globalist basturds burn billions of gallons of dinosaur
juice shipping products across the oceans.
Maybe it's time to level the playing field and build stuff at home? MAGA
Sure. How much are you going to invest in a new factory?
And how are you going to get the cheap labour?
In fact, any factory built in the U.S. would rely heavily on
automation, and not produce as many jobs as "Rachael" thinks.
So it's better to buy cheap imported stuff from Harbor Fright?
Harbor Freight isn't even a blip. How about Walmart?
--
Cindy Hamilton
rbowman
2025-03-07 20:09:47 UTC
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This is a list of countries by tariff rate. The list includes
sovereign states and self-governing dependent territories based
upon the ISO standard ISO 3166-1. Import duty refers to taxes
levied on imported goods, capital and services. The level of
customs duties is a direct indicator of the openness of an
economy to world trade. However, there may also be import
barriers that are not based on the levy of duties. The following
table shows the tariff rate, in percentages, according to United
Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD),[1] World
Trade Organization,[2] and World Bank.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tariff_rate
Virtually everyone has tariffs but only orange man bad.
None of them are 25%.  Last term Trump negotiated the "best trade
agreement ever" with Canada.  Why is it no good now?
This is Trump and his handler.
https://postimg.cc/hfDPnWsW
The libturd Democrats warn us that burning fossil fuels causes
climate change yet the globalist basturds burn billions of gallons
of dinosaur juice shipping products across the oceans.
Maybe it's time to level the playing field and build stuff at home?
MAGA
Sure. How much are you going to invest in a new factory?
And how are you going to get the cheap labour?
In fact, any factory built in the U.S. would rely heavily on
automation, and not produce as many jobs as "Rachael" thinks.
So it's better to buy cheap imported stuff from Harbor Fright?
Harbor Freight isn't even a blip. How about Walmart?
Walmart is very important. If it wasn't for the cheap Chinese junk that
bears some resemblance to the real thing hoi polloi would realize just how
screwed they are. A population running around with its ass hanging out of
its jeans is a dangerous population. Bread and circuses never fail to
please.
Rachael Madcow
2025-03-08 11:44:29 UTC
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This is a list of countries by tariff rate. The list includes sovereign states and self-governing dependent territories based upon the ISO
standard ISO 3166-1. Import duty refers to taxes levied on imported goods, capital and services. The level of customs duties is a direct
indicator of the openness of an economy to world trade. However, there may also be import barriers that are not based on the levy of duties.
The following table shows the tariff rate, in percentages, according to United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD),[1] World
Trade Organization,[2] and World Bank.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tariff_rate
Virtually everyone has tariffs but only orange man bad.
None of them are 25%.  Last term Trump negotiated the "best trade agreement ever" with Canada.  Why is it no good now?
This is Trump and his handler.
https://postimg.cc/hfDPnWsW
The libturd Democrats warn us that burning fossil fuels causes climate change yet the globalist basturds burn billions of gallons of dinosaur
juice shipping products across the oceans.
Maybe it's time to level the playing field and build stuff at home? MAGA
Sure. How much are you going to invest in a new factory?
And how are you going to get the cheap labour?
In fact, any factory built in the U.S. would rely heavily on
automation, and not produce as many jobs as "Rachael" thinks.
So it's better to buy cheap imported stuff from Harbor Fright?
Harbor Freight isn't even a blip. How about Walmart?
Amazon is my go to when I want cheap shiny trinkets.
rbowman
2025-03-08 21:00:42 UTC
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Amazon is my go to when I want cheap shiny trinkets.
Amazon is my go to for not so cheap trinkets that I can't find locally. I
play around with electronics. While it wasn't the greatest I could often
source parts from the local Radio Shack. It sold everything including the
shelves when it went out of business about 10 years ago.
h***@ccanoemail.com
2025-03-08 21:26:33 UTC
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Amazon is my go to when I want cheap shiny trinkets.
Amazon is my go to for not so cheap trinkets that I can't find locally. I
play around with electronics. While it wasn't the greatest I could often
source parts from the local Radio Shack. It sold everything including the
shelves when it went out of business about 10 years ago.
I kinda miss Radio Shack also. In my area the replacement was
The Source .. who would try to sell you extended warranty on
a $ 5.00 item .. sheeesh. They're out of business now also.
.. no big loss there.
A recent retail closure in Eastern Canada has me saddened -
formerly TSC < Tractor Supply Company > more recently
branded as Peavey Mart ... always nice helpful staff ;
their product line and prices began to suffer in recent years.
John T.
rbowman
2025-03-09 03:34:45 UTC
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A recent retail closure in Eastern Canada has me saddened -
formerly TSC < Tractor Supply Company > more recently branded as
Peavey Mart ... always nice helpful staff ;
their product line and prices began to suffer in recent years.
We have a Tractor Supply but it's 10 miles south and Murdoch's, which has
about the same inventory (plus firearms) is closer. The US company and the
Canadian TSC went their separate ways a long time ago.

I don't know if TSC had them but Murdoch's ran some radio ads about their
springtime chick availability. The 500 chicks they had were gone in about
15 minutes leaving a lot of frustrated people standing in line. I guess
with the price of eggs a lot of people are wannabe chicken farmers.

I don't know if you bothered to watch Yellowstone but the scene where Beth
takes the kid shopping was Murdoch's.

The place had been Quality Supply but like several other local businesses
when the parents who had built the business wanted to retire the kids
wanted no part of it. Fortunately Murdoch's Ranch Supply was very similar
so the transition was mostly changing the signs.

https://www.murdochs.com/
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