Discussion:
Whirlpool washer won't drain
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Robert MacNutt
2003-11-06 22:42:30 UTC
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Hi. Just got finished reading some excellent posts here on this topic
- unfortunately, none exactly match my problem:

Whirlpool direct-drive washer, about 5 years old. Pump has two
different sized pipes - no flapper.

Washer fills, agitates, then stops, dead silent for a minute or so,
then starts to spin with a full tub of water. The water does spin
out, but I'm sure it's hard on the motor. There's no leaking at all.

I was certain it was the pump, so I replaced it (boy, what a pain THAT
was!), but it still won't drain. The lid switch seems to work - If I
lift the lid during agitate or spin, the washer stops, when I close
it, it starts back again. There aren't TWO sets of contacts on that
switch, are there?

Might it be the timer? It does seem odd that it will stop during
agitate if I open the door. Then again, it seems there've been times
that the door was open, and it kept agitating.
jeff
2003-11-07 03:15:46 UTC
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Hi,
Post by Robert MacNutt
Whirlpool direct-drive washer, about 5 years old. Pump has two
different sized pipes - no flapper.
Washer fills, agitates, then stops, dead silent for a minute or so,
then starts to spin with a full tub of water. The water does spin
out, but I'm sure it's hard on the motor. There's no leaking at all.
Most DD washers will agitate, stop, motor reverses and washer starts
draining only for a bit, washer stops and this is when the tranny
"sets up" for spin and the washer restarts draining and spinning
together...-sounds- like your predrain is missing somehow...timer??
Post by Robert MacNutt
I was certain it was the pump, so I replaced it (boy, what a pain THAT
was!), but it still won't drain. The lid switch seems to work - If I
lift the lid during agitate or spin, the washer stops, when I close
it, it starts back again. There aren't TWO sets of contacts on that
switch, are there?
Might it be the timer? It does seem odd that it will stop during
agitate if I open the door. Then again, it seems there've been times
that the door was open, and it kept agitating.
Most DD washers will still agitate with the lid open/up and will stop
draining/spinning with the lid up.

jeff.

Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/
Robert MacNutt
2003-11-07 16:21:35 UTC
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Post by jeff
Most DD washers will still agitate with the lid open/up and will stop
draining/spinning with the lid up.
jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/
Does the agitator normally run, albeit less vigorously, during the
drain cycle? If so, then it would seem the lid switch is ok, the
drain cycle is "happening", but no water is being drained. Is there a
valve of some sort that's perhaps not being opened during the drain
cycle, but is being opened during Spin? The water drains out fine
during Spin, just from the sheer pressure of being spun around, I
guess.
Robert MacNutt
2003-11-07 03:49:16 UTC
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Post by Robert MacNutt
Hi. Just got finished reading some excellent posts here on this topic
Whirlpool direct-drive washer, about 5 years old. Pump has two
different sized pipes - no flapper.
Washer fills, agitates, then stops, dead silent for a minute or so,
then starts to spin with a full tub of water. The water does spin
out, but I'm sure it's hard on the motor. There's no leaking at all.
I was certain it was the pump, so I replaced it (boy, what a pain THAT
was!), but it still won't drain. The lid switch seems to work - If I
lift the lid during agitate or spin, the washer stops, when I close
it, it starts back again. There aren't TWO sets of contacts on that
switch, are there?
Might it be the timer? It does seem odd that it will stop during
agitate if I open the door. Then again, it seems there've been times
that the door was open, and it kept agitating.
Followup - I checked out the symptoms a bit more closely, and here's
what it does:

* During the wash cycle, it agitates with the lid up or down,
* Then(at what looks like the end of the wash cycle on the dial)it
switches to another state, where it's sort of agigating, but not as
vigorously as before, and it will stop if the lid is opened - could
this be the drain cycle? It stays like this for about 3 clicks of the
timer, but no draining happens
* Then it goes another state (about 2 timer clicks) for about 2
minutes where it's dead silent (with a tub full of water)
* Then it goes to spin, during which the water eventually spins out.
Oscar_lives
2003-11-07 03:56:00 UTC
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Post by Robert MacNutt
Post by Robert MacNutt
Hi. Just got finished reading some excellent posts here on this topic
Whirlpool direct-drive washer, about 5 years old. Pump has two
different sized pipes - no flapper.
Washer fills, agitates, then stops, dead silent for a minute or so,
then starts to spin with a full tub of water. The water does spin
out, but I'm sure it's hard on the motor. There's no leaking at all.
I was certain it was the pump, so I replaced it (boy, what a pain THAT
was!), but it still won't drain. The lid switch seems to work - If I
lift the lid during agitate or spin, the washer stops, when I close
it, it starts back again. There aren't TWO sets of contacts on that
switch, are there?
Might it be the timer? It does seem odd that it will stop during
agitate if I open the door. Then again, it seems there've been times
that the door was open, and it kept agitating.
Followup - I checked out the symptoms a bit more closely, and here's
* During the wash cycle, it agitates with the lid up or down,
* Then(at what looks like the end of the wash cycle on the dial)it
switches to another state, where it's sort of agigating, but not as
vigorously as before, and it will stop if the lid is opened - could
this be the drain cycle? It stays like this for about 3 clicks of the
timer, but no draining happens
* Then it goes another state (about 2 timer clicks) for about 2
minutes where it's dead silent (with a tub full of water)
* Then it goes to spin, during which the water eventually spins out.
My Whirlpool washer also does this-- intermittently. The lid switch seems
OK, but ??? I am eagerly awaiting some sage advice...
Mad Mac
2003-11-07 17:02:11 UTC
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Post by Robert MacNutt
Followup - I checked out the symptoms a bit more closely, and here's
* During the wash cycle, it agitates with the lid up or down,
* Then(at what looks like the end of the wash cycle on the dial)it
switches to another state, where it's sort of agigating, but not as
vigorously as before, and it will stop if the lid is opened - could
this be the drain cycle? It stays like this for about 3 clicks of the
timer, but no draining happens
* Then it goes another state (about 2 timer clicks) for about 2
minutes where it's dead silent (with a tub full of water)
* Then it goes to spin, during which the water eventually spins out.
OK...the bit where the agitation stops when you lift the lid towards the
end of the wash cycle, that is quite normal. In models which have an
automatic bleach dispenser, they dispense during the last couple of
minutes. They were designed to require the lid to be down while the
bleach was flushed from the dispenser. Even if you don't have the
dispenser, many models will still stop agitating if the lid is lifted in
the last few minutes of the wash cycle, since the wiring for this is
still "built in".

At the end of the wash, what is supposed to happen is that the washer
goes into what is called a "neutral drain". Basically, the motor runs
and turns the pump, pumping the water out, but the transmission is in
"neutral" at that point. After 2 minutes, the pump out stops, and you
will hear a "thump", which is the transmission engaging spin. The
machine then spins for about 6 minutes. You appear to be missing out the
entire "neutral drain" part - sounds to me like you need a timer. Can
you post your model and serial numbers?
jeff
2003-11-07 23:38:38 UTC
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Post by Mad Mac
You appear to be missing out the
entire "neutral drain" part - sounds to me like you need a timer. Can
you post your model and serial numbers?
Kinda does -sound- like that eh!??!

jeff.

Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/
Robert MacNutt
2003-11-09 01:04:21 UTC
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Post by Mad Mac
Post by Robert MacNutt
Followup - I checked out the symptoms a bit more closely, and here's
* During the wash cycle, it agitates with the lid up or down,
* Then(at what looks like the end of the wash cycle on the dial)it
switches to another state, where it's sort of agigating, but not as
vigorously as before, and it will stop if the lid is opened - could
this be the drain cycle? It stays like this for about 3 clicks of the
timer, but no draining happens
* Then it goes another state (about 2 timer clicks) for about 2
minutes where it's dead silent (with a tub full of water)
* Then it goes to spin, during which the water eventually spins out.
OK...the bit where the agitation stops when you lift the lid towards the
end of the wash cycle, that is quite normal. In models which have an
automatic bleach dispenser, they dispense during the last couple of
minutes. They were designed to require the lid to be down while the
bleach was flushed from the dispenser. Even if you don't have the
dispenser, many models will still stop agitating if the lid is lifted in
the last few minutes of the wash cycle, since the wiring for this is
still "built in".
At the end of the wash, what is supposed to happen is that the washer
goes into what is called a "neutral drain". Basically, the motor runs
and turns the pump, pumping the water out, but the transmission is in
"neutral" at that point. After 2 minutes, the pump out stops, and you
will hear a "thump", which is the transmission engaging spin. The
machine then spins for about 6 minutes. You appear to be missing out the
entire "neutral drain" part - sounds to me like you need a timer. Can
you post your model and serial numbers?
Thanks for clearing that up - makes perfect sense now!

My model# is LSR7233EQ, serial# CF3088142

FWIW, I tried it on all four cycles, and it does the exact same thing.
Robert MacNutt
2003-11-10 16:11:07 UTC
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Post by Robert MacNutt
Post by Mad Mac
Post by Robert MacNutt
Followup - I checked out the symptoms a bit more closely, and here's
* During the wash cycle, it agitates with the lid up or down,
* Then(at what looks like the end of the wash cycle on the dial)it
switches to another state, where it's sort of agigating, but not as
vigorously as before, and it will stop if the lid is opened - could
this be the drain cycle? It stays like this for about 3 clicks of the
timer, but no draining happens
* Then it goes another state (about 2 timer clicks) for about 2
minutes where it's dead silent (with a tub full of water)
* Then it goes to spin, during which the water eventually spins out.
OK...the bit where the agitation stops when you lift the lid towards the
end of the wash cycle, that is quite normal. In models which have an
automatic bleach dispenser, they dispense during the last couple of
minutes. They were designed to require the lid to be down while the
bleach was flushed from the dispenser. Even if you don't have the
dispenser, many models will still stop agitating if the lid is lifted in
the last few minutes of the wash cycle, since the wiring for this is
still "built in".
At the end of the wash, what is supposed to happen is that the washer
goes into what is called a "neutral drain". Basically, the motor runs
and turns the pump, pumping the water out, but the transmission is in
"neutral" at that point. After 2 minutes, the pump out stops, and you
will hear a "thump", which is the transmission engaging spin. The
machine then spins for about 6 minutes. You appear to be missing out the
entire "neutral drain" part - sounds to me like you need a timer. Can
you post your model and serial numbers?
Thanks for clearing that up - makes perfect sense now!
My model# is LSR7233EQ, serial# CF3088142
FWIW, I tried it on all four cycles, and it does the exact same thing.
I just called my local appliance parts store, to get a price on a
timer, and the fellow there (they've always been very knowledgeable
and helpful in the past), said it sounded like the washer was working
normally. Could that possibly be? Are there washers that actually
drain the tub as part of the spin cycle? It sure seems like a
tremendous load on the motor, to spin that tub full of water. And if
I lift the lid while that's going on, it slams to a stop with a
tremendous jerk(from all that extra weight), which just doesn't seem
right. Could my appliance parts guy be mistaken? I'd hate to have to
throw away money on a timer, but I don't want to have to replace the
motor or transmission at some point down the road, either.
Daniel L. Belton
2003-11-10 18:25:16 UTC
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Post by Robert MacNutt
Post by Robert MacNutt
Post by Mad Mac
Post by Robert MacNutt
Followup - I checked out the symptoms a bit more closely, and here's
* During the wash cycle, it agitates with the lid up or down,
* Then(at what looks like the end of the wash cycle on the dial)it
switches to another state, where it's sort of agigating, but not as
vigorously as before, and it will stop if the lid is opened - could
this be the drain cycle? It stays like this for about 3 clicks of the
timer, but no draining happens
* Then it goes another state (about 2 timer clicks) for about 2
minutes where it's dead silent (with a tub full of water)
* Then it goes to spin, during which the water eventually spins out.
OK...the bit where the agitation stops when you lift the lid towards the
end of the wash cycle, that is quite normal. In models which have an
automatic bleach dispenser, they dispense during the last couple of
minutes. They were designed to require the lid to be down while the
bleach was flushed from the dispenser. Even if you don't have the
dispenser, many models will still stop agitating if the lid is lifted in
the last few minutes of the wash cycle, since the wiring for this is
still "built in".
At the end of the wash, what is supposed to happen is that the washer
goes into what is called a "neutral drain". Basically, the motor runs
and turns the pump, pumping the water out, but the transmission is in
"neutral" at that point. After 2 minutes, the pump out stops, and you
will hear a "thump", which is the transmission engaging spin. The
machine then spins for about 6 minutes. You appear to be missing out the
entire "neutral drain" part - sounds to me like you need a timer. Can
you post your model and serial numbers?
Thanks for clearing that up - makes perfect sense now!
My model# is LSR7233EQ, serial# CF3088142
FWIW, I tried it on all four cycles, and it does the exact same thing.
I just called my local appliance parts store, to get a price on a
timer, and the fellow there (they've always been very knowledgeable
and helpful in the past), said it sounded like the washer was working
normally. Could that possibly be? Are there washers that actually
drain the tub as part of the spin cycle? It sure seems like a
tremendous load on the motor, to spin that tub full of water. And if
I lift the lid while that's going on, it slams to a stop with a
tremendous jerk(from all that extra weight), which just doesn't seem
right. Could my appliance parts guy be mistaken? I'd hate to have to
throw away money on a timer, but I don't want to have to replace the
motor or transmission at some point down the road, either.
I have a Whirlpool washer that is one of that same series (different model,
but same series) and it drains before starting to spin. When the spin cycle
starts, the only water in the washer is what is in the clothes themselves
since the extra has been pumped out of the tub...

Is it possible that the pump itself could be bad?
charlie
2003-11-10 22:12:40 UTC
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Post by Daniel L. Belton
Post by Robert MacNutt
Post by Robert MacNutt
Post by Mad Mac
Post by Robert MacNutt
Followup - I checked out the symptoms a bit more closely, and here's
* During the wash cycle, it agitates with the lid up or down,
* Then(at what looks like the end of the wash cycle on the dial)it
switches to another state, where it's sort of agigating, but not as
vigorously as before, and it will stop if the lid is opened - could
this be the drain cycle? It stays like this for about 3 clicks of the
timer, but no draining happens
* Then it goes another state (about 2 timer clicks) for about 2
minutes where it's dead silent (with a tub full of water)
* Then it goes to spin, during which the water eventually spins out.
OK...the bit where the agitation stops when you lift the lid towards the
end of the wash cycle, that is quite normal. In models which have an
automatic bleach dispenser, they dispense during the last couple of
minutes. They were designed to require the lid to be down while the
bleach was flushed from the dispenser. Even if you don't have the
dispenser, many models will still stop agitating if the lid is lifted in
the last few minutes of the wash cycle, since the wiring for this is
still "built in".
At the end of the wash, what is supposed to happen is that the washer
goes into what is called a "neutral drain". Basically, the motor runs
and turns the pump, pumping the water out, but the transmission is in
"neutral" at that point. After 2 minutes, the pump out stops, and you
will hear a "thump", which is the transmission engaging spin. The
machine then spins for about 6 minutes. You appear to be missing out the
entire "neutral drain" part - sounds to me like you need a timer. Can
you post your model and serial numbers?
Thanks for clearing that up - makes perfect sense now!
My model# is LSR7233EQ, serial# CF3088142
FWIW, I tried it on all four cycles, and it does the exact same thing.
I just called my local appliance parts store, to get a price on a
timer, and the fellow there (they've always been very knowledgeable
and helpful in the past), said it sounded like the washer was working
normally. Could that possibly be? Are there washers that actually
drain the tub as part of the spin cycle? It sure seems like a
tremendous load on the motor, to spin that tub full of water. And if
I lift the lid while that's going on, it slams to a stop with a
tremendous jerk(from all that extra weight), which just doesn't seem
right. Could my appliance parts guy be mistaken? I'd hate to have to
throw away money on a timer, but I don't want to have to replace the
motor or transmission at some point down the road, either.
I have a Whirlpool washer that is one of that same series (different model,
but same series) and it drains before starting to spin. When the spin cycle
starts, the only water in the washer is what is in the clothes themselves
since the extra has been pumped out of the tub...
Is it possible that the pump itself could be bad?
check the pump as daniel suggested.
--
Robert MacNutt
2003-11-12 13:29:39 UTC
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I've already replaced the pump. Wish I'd come here first - oh, well.
I'll order a timer today - bet that'll fix it. I'll update this
thread after I get it installed.

Thanks so much for everyone's help and advice.
Post by Daniel L. Belton
Post by Robert MacNutt
Post by Robert MacNutt
Post by Mad Mac
Post by Robert MacNutt
Followup - I checked out the symptoms a bit more closely, and here's
* During the wash cycle, it agitates with the lid up or down,
* Then(at what looks like the end of the wash cycle on the dial)it
switches to another state, where it's sort of agigating, but not as
vigorously as before, and it will stop if the lid is opened - could
this be the drain cycle? It stays like this for about 3 clicks of the
timer, but no draining happens
* Then it goes another state (about 2 timer clicks) for about 2
minutes where it's dead silent (with a tub full of water)
* Then it goes to spin, during which the water eventually spins out.
OK...the bit where the agitation stops when you lift the lid towards the
end of the wash cycle, that is quite normal. In models which have an
automatic bleach dispenser, they dispense during the last couple of
minutes. They were designed to require the lid to be down while the
bleach was flushed from the dispenser. Even if you don't have the
dispenser, many models will still stop agitating if the lid is lifted in
the last few minutes of the wash cycle, since the wiring for this is
still "built in".
At the end of the wash, what is supposed to happen is that the washer
goes into what is called a "neutral drain". Basically, the motor runs
and turns the pump, pumping the water out, but the transmission is in
"neutral" at that point. After 2 minutes, the pump out stops, and you
will hear a "thump", which is the transmission engaging spin. The
machine then spins for about 6 minutes. You appear to be missing out the
entire "neutral drain" part - sounds to me like you need a timer. Can
you post your model and serial numbers?
Thanks for clearing that up - makes perfect sense now!
My model# is LSR7233EQ, serial# CF3088142
FWIW, I tried it on all four cycles, and it does the exact same thing.
I just called my local appliance parts store, to get a price on a
timer, and the fellow there (they've always been very knowledgeable
and helpful in the past), said it sounded like the washer was working
normally. Could that possibly be? Are there washers that actually
drain the tub as part of the spin cycle? It sure seems like a
tremendous load on the motor, to spin that tub full of water. And if
I lift the lid while that's going on, it slams to a stop with a
tremendous jerk(from all that extra weight), which just doesn't seem
right. Could my appliance parts guy be mistaken? I'd hate to have to
throw away money on a timer, but I don't want to have to replace the
motor or transmission at some point down the road, either.
I have a Whirlpool washer that is one of that same series (different model,
but same series) and it drains before starting to spin. When the spin cycle
starts, the only water in the washer is what is in the clothes themselves
since the extra has been pumped out of the tub...
Is it possible that the pump itself could be bad?
Dan O.
2003-11-12 21:23:01 UTC
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Robert MacNutt wrote in message ...
I've already replaced the pump. I'll order a timer today
- bet that'll fix it.
I'll update this thread after I get it installed.
My model# is LSR7233EQ, serial# CF3088142
BTW. The model number you posted previously is incomplete. I assume
you didn't get it right off the appliance's identification tag like is
normally necessary? You can see the possibilities for timers for that
model at the following links:

Timer for LSR7233EQ0 (zero at end)
http://ng.appliance411.com/data.php?rc=1168

Timer for LSR7233EQ1 (one at end)
http://ng.appliance411.com/data.php?rc=547820

Dan O.
-
Appliance411.com
http://ng.Appliance411.com/?ref411=Whirlpool+washer

=Ð~~~~~~
Post by Daniel L. Belton
Post by Robert MacNutt
Post by Robert MacNutt
Post by Mad Mac
Post by Robert MacNutt
Followup - I checked out the symptoms a bit more closely, and here's
* During the wash cycle, it agitates with the lid up or down,
* Then(at what looks like the end of the wash cycle on the dial)it
switches to another state, where it's sort of agigating, but not as
vigorously as before, and it will stop if the lid is
opened - could
Post by Daniel L. Belton
Post by Robert MacNutt
Post by Robert MacNutt
Post by Mad Mac
Post by Robert MacNutt
this be the drain cycle? It stays like this for about 3
clicks of
Post by Daniel L. Belton
Post by Robert MacNutt
Post by Robert MacNutt
Post by Mad Mac
Post by Robert MacNutt
the
timer, but no draining happens
* Then it goes another state (about 2 timer clicks) for about 2
minutes where it's dead silent (with a tub full of water)
* Then it goes to spin, during which the water eventually spins out.
OK...the bit where the agitation stops when you lift the lid
towards
Post by Daniel L. Belton
Post by Robert MacNutt
Post by Robert MacNutt
Post by Mad Mac
the
end of the wash cycle, that is quite normal. In models which have an
automatic bleach dispenser, they dispense during the last couple of
minutes. They were designed to require the lid to be down while the
bleach was flushed from the dispenser. Even if you don't have the
dispenser, many models will still stop agitating if the lid
is lifted
Post by Daniel L. Belton
Post by Robert MacNutt
Post by Robert MacNutt
Post by Mad Mac
in
the last few minutes of the wash cycle, since the wiring for this is
still "built in".
At the end of the wash, what is supposed to happen is that the washer
goes into what is called a "neutral drain". Basically, the motor runs
and turns the pump, pumping the water out, but the
transmission is in
Post by Daniel L. Belton
Post by Robert MacNutt
Post by Robert MacNutt
Post by Mad Mac
"neutral" at that point. After 2 minutes, the pump out stops, and you
will hear a "thump", which is the transmission engaging spin. The
machine then spins for about 6 minutes. You appear to be
missing out
Post by Daniel L. Belton
Post by Robert MacNutt
Post by Robert MacNutt
Post by Mad Mac
the
entire "neutral drain" part - sounds to me like you need a timer. Can
you post your model and serial numbers?
Thanks for clearing that up - makes perfect sense now!
My model# is LSR7233EQ, serial# CF3088142
FWIW, I tried it on all four cycles, and it does the exact same thing.
I just called my local appliance parts store, to get a price on a
timer, and the fellow there (they've always been very
knowledgeable
Post by Daniel L. Belton
Post by Robert MacNutt
and helpful in the past), said it sounded like the washer was working
normally. Could that possibly be? Are there washers that
actually
Post by Daniel L. Belton
Post by Robert MacNutt
drain the tub as part of the spin cycle? It sure seems like a
tremendous load on the motor, to spin that tub full of water.
And if
Post by Daniel L. Belton
Post by Robert MacNutt
I lift the lid while that's going on, it slams to a stop with a
tremendous jerk(from all that extra weight), which just doesn't seem
right. Could my appliance parts guy be mistaken? I'd hate to have to
throw away money on a timer, but I don't want to have to replace the
motor or transmission at some point down the road, either.
I have a Whirlpool washer that is one of that same series
(different model,
Post by Daniel L. Belton
but same series) and it drains before starting to spin. When the spin cycle
starts, the only water in the washer is what is in the clothes themselves
since the extra has been pumped out of the tub...
Is it possible that the pump itself could be bad?
jeff
2003-11-10 23:15:04 UTC
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Hi,
Post by Robert MacNutt
My model# is LSR7233EQ, serial# CF3088142
Post by Robert MacNutt
FWIW, I tried it on all four cycles, and it does the exact same thing.
I just called my local appliance parts store, to get a price on a
timer, and the fellow there (they've always been very knowledgeable
and helpful in the past), said it sounded like the washer was working
normally. Could that possibly be? Are there washers that actually
drain the tub as part of the spin cycle? It sure seems like a
tremendous load on the motor, to spin that tub full of water. And if
I lift the lid while that's going on, it slams to a stop with a
tremendous jerk(from all that extra weight), which just doesn't seem
right. Could my appliance parts guy be mistaken? I'd hate to have to
throw away money on a timer, but I don't want to have to replace the
motor or transmission at some point down the road, either.
Are there washers that actually
drain the tub as part of the spin cycle?
Yes.

I checked your model# *Transmission (Gear Case) commonly used on
Direct Drive model Whirlpool/Kenmore brands clothes washers that
utilize a neutral drain.*

Yours should pre-drain.
Post by Robert MacNutt
And if
I lift the lid while that's going on, it slams to a stop with a
tremendous jerk
Possible the brake is grabbing to quickly.
Post by Robert MacNutt
I'd hate to have to
throw away money on a timer
Check with a different company to see what they say.

jeff.

Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/
George Myers
2003-11-10 21:58:21 UTC
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I would check for something stuck in the outlet from the pump to the tub..
We had a shoulder pad that got stuck once.
Post by Robert MacNutt
Hi. Just got finished reading some excellent posts here on this topic
Whirlpool direct-drive washer, about 5 years old. Pump has two
different sized pipes - no flapper.
Washer fills, agitates, then stops, dead silent for a minute or so,
then starts to spin with a full tub of water. The water does spin
out, but I'm sure it's hard on the motor. There's no leaking at all.
I was certain it was the pump, so I replaced it (boy, what a pain THAT
was!), but it still won't drain. The lid switch seems to work - If I
lift the lid during agitate or spin, the washer stops, when I close
it, it starts back again. There aren't TWO sets of contacts on that
switch, are there?
Might it be the timer? It does seem odd that it will stop during
agitate if I open the door. Then again, it seems there've been times
that the door was open, and it kept agitating.
Oscar_lives
2003-11-12 15:18:48 UTC
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OK-- I finally caught mine. It intermittently doesn't spin after the wash.
It goes through its "neutral drain" cycle OK, but the tub never spins after
the wash. Then it fills up for the rinse and finishes the cycle, but it
does spin after the rinse.

What's up with this? timer still?

TIA
Post by Robert MacNutt
Hi. Just got finished reading some excellent posts here on this topic
Whirlpool direct-drive washer, about 5 years old. Pump has two
different sized pipes - no flapper.
Washer fills, agitates, then stops, dead silent for a minute or so,
then starts to spin with a full tub of water. The water does spin
out, but I'm sure it's hard on the motor. There's no leaking at all.
I was certain it was the pump, so I replaced it (boy, what a pain THAT
was!), but it still won't drain. The lid switch seems to work - If I
lift the lid during agitate or spin, the washer stops, when I close
it, it starts back again. There aren't TWO sets of contacts on that
switch, are there?
Might it be the timer? It does seem odd that it will stop during
agitate if I open the door. Then again, it seems there've been times
that the door was open, and it kept agitating.
Tony Hwang
2003-11-12 21:10:25 UTC
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Hi,
Sounds like timer at that particular moment of cycle.
Tony
Post by Oscar_lives
OK-- I finally caught mine. It intermittently doesn't spin after the wash.
It goes through its "neutral drain" cycle OK, but the tub never spins after
the wash. Then it fills up for the rinse and finishes the cycle, but it
does spin after the rinse.
What's up with this? timer still?
TIA
Post by Robert MacNutt
Hi. Just got finished reading some excellent posts here on this topic
Whirlpool direct-drive washer, about 5 years old. Pump has two
different sized pipes - no flapper.
Washer fills, agitates, then stops, dead silent for a minute or so,
then starts to spin with a full tub of water. The water does spin
out, but I'm sure it's hard on the motor. There's no leaking at all.
I was certain it was the pump, so I replaced it (boy, what a pain THAT
was!), but it still won't drain. The lid switch seems to work - If I
lift the lid during agitate or spin, the washer stops, when I close
it, it starts back again. There aren't TWO sets of contacts on that
switch, are there?
Might it be the timer? It does seem odd that it will stop during
agitate if I open the door. Then again, it seems there've been times
that the door was open, and it kept agitating.
Dan O.
2003-11-12 21:24:02 UTC
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Oscar_lives wrote in message ...
Post by Oscar_lives
OK-- I finally caught mine. It intermittently doesn't spin
after the wash. It goes through its "neutral drain" cycle
OK, but the tub never spins after the wash.
But after the "neutral drain" cycle does it pause?? That's what resets
the neurtal drain assembly in the transmission.

If it doesn't, try opening the lid for a couple of seconds and then
closing it again. That would sinulate the pause the timer should do.
If it spins after that, the timer may not be pausing which would mean
it would likely need to be replaced.

If it still doesn't kick into spin, the problem is likely in the
washer's transmission.

Dan O.
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Appliance411.com
http://ng.Appliance411.com/?ref411=Whirlpool+washer

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Post by Oscar_lives
Post by Robert MacNutt
Hi. Just got finished reading some excellent posts here on this topic
Whirlpool direct-drive washer, about 5 years old. Pump has two
different sized pipes - no flapper.
Washer fills, agitates, then stops, dead silent for a minute or so,
then starts to spin with a full tub of water. The water does spin
out, but I'm sure it's hard on the motor. There's no leaking at all.
I was certain it was the pump, so I replaced it (boy, what a pain THAT
was!), but it still won't drain. The lid switch seems to work - If I
lift the lid during agitate or spin, the washer stops, when I close
it, it starts back again. There aren't TWO sets of contacts on that
switch, are there?
Might it be the timer? It does seem odd that it will stop during
agitate if I open the door. Then again, it seems there've been times
that the door was open, and it kept agitating.
SuperDan
2005-10-03 17:29:11 UTC
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Ok, so it's not so different as I do have a similiar problem. M
Whirlpool washer simply won't drain. It gets to the end of the previou
cycle, clicks then does nothing. It won't hit the drain cycle on eithe
the wash or rinse. Would it be safe to say that this is a time
problem? The model / serial # are:

LSR5232LQ0 / CPO755994

Any help or advice you guys can give will save me a min. of 65 buck
and if you can help... I'll buy the next beer

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Appliance Repair Aid
2005-10-03 18:05:33 UTC
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Ok, so it's not so different as I do have a similiar problem. My
Whirlpool washer simply won't drain. It gets to the end of the previous
cycle, clicks then does nothing. It won't hit the drain cycle on either
the wash or rinse. Would it be safe to say that this is a timer
LSR5232LQ0 / CPO755994
Any help or advice you guys can give will save me a min. of 65 bucks
and if you can help... I'll buy the next beer.
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Hi,

Check the lid switch!

http://www.applianceaid.com/procedures.html
http://www.applianceaid.com/dd_lidswitch.html

jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
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SuperDan
2005-10-03 18:51:11 UTC
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Yeah, now I feel like a n00b. That's the problem. I went to push down o
the switch and it's...GONE! seems it broke off. I remember thinking
needed to check that but got going on something else and forgot...afte
I tore it apart hehe. THANKS!!!!! You get the beer!
Post by Dan O.
Ok, so it's not so different as I do have a similiar problem. My
Whirlpool washer simply won't drain. It gets to the end of th
previous
cycle, clicks then does nothing. It won't hit the drain cycle o
either
the wash or rinse. Would it be safe to say that this is a timer
LSR5232LQ0 / CPO755994
Any help or advice you guys can give will save me a min. of 65 bucks
and if you can help... I'll buy the next beer.
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SuperDan
Hi,
Check the lid switch!
http://www.applianceaid.com/procedures.html
http://www.applianceaid.com/dd_lidswitch.html
jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com
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Appliance Repair Aid
2005-10-03 21:56:35 UTC
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Yeah, now I feel like a n00b. That's the problem. I went to push down on
the switch and it's...GONE! seems it broke off. I remember thinking I
needed to check that but got going on something else and forgot...after
I tore it apart hehe. THANKS!!!!! You get the beer!
Thankx for the update!! :)

jeff.
Appliance Repair Aid
http://www.applianceaid.com/
yliu11
2005-10-10 07:02:39 UTC
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Hi,

I have a whirlpool washer: mod:LSR6332kq1, serial: cp4029116.

It can wash with SOME wired noise, won't drain and spin with whole tan
of water.
The only that can get water out is in the spin cycle.

I checked the switch and it is OK. When I open the lid, it stops, an
press the swicth, it continues to wash.


Any suggestion is welcome!!!

E

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