Dinner in the year of our lord 20241031.

[Walt Coogan]

You can make a smash burger for less than half the cost of
having someone flatten it for you.

I've been trying to make a smash burger but that's been elusive
so I'm looking for some new tools: a flat iron weight to flatten
the burger and a thin metal spring steel spatula. I'm also going
to have to cook these burgers on a carbon steel pan because the
burgers have to be scraped off the pan. Smash burgers are
actually a new way to cook a hamburger. A properly made one is
just a scrumptious, sensual, experience.

2 cast iron pans, 1 smaller.
Heat both pans.  They will retain heat so will cook both sides at
once.
Put meat in larger one and smash with other pan.

I disagree.  There is a kitchen tool called a cast iron burger press,
which makes more sense than using two cast iron skillets of differing
size.  You could also use an old style cast iron bacon press to
accomplish the same result.  That is, if you're planning to do this
often.
Jill

It depends on what you already have.  I don't need to buy a burger
press or a bacon press.  I have the cast iron already.  Nothing new
need be bought or stored.
I have no intention of deliberately making a dry (juice all smashed
out) burger.  That's David.

You keep getting sillier and sillier. You don't know a thing about what
I do or what I make. Your idea of using 2 pans to cook a burger is the
most idiotic scheme yet. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Tojo, maybe yoose should give her da last word. Dat's what da hawaiians
would do.

Racist scumbag, maybe you should be vivisected and dredged in Kosher salt.

[Citizen Winston Smith]

he's been humping jesus for many years.

The Kingdom of Christ lies within.

[Citizen Winston Smith]

I cook those things too. Most people do. You can't cook these things
without special heat retaining pans? Yoose people are delusional.
I am
the king of pineapple upside down cake, and pancakes too.

Nobody said that is the only way to cook them. You challenged Carol to
name one dish that people would cook in a pain that retains heat.

She said that people down South cook with heat retention. Obviously
that's not true. You could cook a roast by turning a very hot oven off
and letting the oven coast for an hour or so but that has nothing to do
with the pan. If I was cooking a steak or pork chop or pancakes, I
don't
turn the heat off and just leave stuff in the pan. You don't do that
either.

You are deliberately overlooking to context.... cast iron frying
pans. You heat them up and slap a piece of meat on and the give a
good sear without the temperature of metal dropping.  Aluminum will
heat up very quickly, but if you apply a large piece of meat it cools
way down. That is why cast iron is so good for browning.

IMHO, David often overlooks or distorts the context.  He's becoming
the new Sheldon. LOL

Ouch   ;-)

What is it in him that threatens you so?

All of you.

Is it cooking and prep jealousy because all his dishes look like they
migrated from a food magazine spread to your screens?

Is it the unvarnished love and joy he evidences in his "rock"and its
peoples?

Do you all secretly wish you could praise your own local surrounding
with such sincerity, yet somehow you just can't too that horn and again
jealousy at his joy oozes out?

Or is it the trickster's gentle smirk you mainly get from him as the
Tojo taunt racism endlessly washes off his back with nary a blood wound
for the venom you attack him with?

Is it because despite never quoting a line of scripture he somehow
manages to live Christ's principles of tolerance and forgiveness without
lashing back at you in kind for your depredations?

There's 5 unassailable insights for you all to run away from, but the
indictments are served and in the Creator's possession, so you fume at
his not being a regular "Popeye" here and lick-spittle cursing your
sorry selves back to the demented bullying pit you've made for readers here.

Rather a sad lot you all are as you reminisce over Sheldon's antics or
Kuthe's sex life, desperately seeking the confliction that fueled your
inner fires of hatred and self-loathing for lo these many years.

Hide in your kill-files then bitches, because you are all petrified of
engaging with me because I give no quarter and you feel the sting of
righteous retribution down to the tips of your filthy trollish toes.

So here you stew, a cauldron of cretins assigned 3 full time trolls to
mock and chide you and that is a large number of assets for a near dead
medium like this.

You might all ask yourselves, who sent them here and why.

But that would take an admission of the mess you've made here, and some
move to heal the tonality and you just can't bring yourselves to trade
conflict for camaraderie, not without someone being "voted off the island".

Just a human tragedy without respite or resolution - that is what you
lot are.

Real "end times" stuff this is, like going to Gomorrah for lessons in
how to bake bread and incinerate kindness simultaneously.

Basta.

[Citizen Winston Smith]

Ditto, Dave.  I nearly always use a cast iron skillet to cook
burgers.  Excellent heat conduction, great browning, able to
cook them to just your preferred doneness.  A grill works for
that, too.  I'm not sure what "new ideas" dsi1 is looking for.
It's just hamburgers.
Jill

You're wrong about cast iron being an excellent conductor of heat.
Information about the thermal conduction of metals is readily
available but my guess is that you're not into scientific tables
or science in general. Why do I even bother with yoose guys?

David, most of the talk is about heat retention and how useful it
is.

Americans don't cook with heat retention. Hawaiians, on the other
hand, certainly do.

David, mainlanders, especially from the south DEFINATELY cook with
heat
retention.  They may not think of it, but they know it, everytime
they
select a pan.

Name one dish.

Steaks, pork chops, pancakes, pineapple upside down cake.....

Adding to the list: chicken or fish cooked in skillet.  Fried potatoes,
any number of vegetables.  Heat retention is important in cooking no
matter what culture.  Imagine cooking food in a cheap-ass wok that can't
hold the heat for a stir-fry.

Has Jill admitted that she was wrong when she said that cast iron's a
good heat conductor?

Has trump admitted that he isn't perfect?

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6363359050112

Former President Trump revealed what mistake he thinks he made during
his first term in office while speaking with Hispanic voters at a
Univision townhall.


https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/04/donald-trump-admits-he-makes-mistakes.html

https://www.nydailynews.com/2018/01/17/president-trump-admits-he-made-mistakes-during-his-first-year-insists-golf-is-all-the-exercise-he-needs/

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/donald-trump-talks-about-his-biggest-mistake-149455941744

I reckon you don't know much about narcissists master.

I reckon you will IGNORE that your latest cheap shot was another TDS
deceit, narcissist.

[Citizen Winston Smith]

Your simplistic ways are your downfall. Why the heck would I
hate a pan?  That's just so silly. I'm an idea person, I'm
always on the lookout for new ideas. I love new ideas. Using a
cast iron pan to cook a burger is just plain dumb. I don't like
that idea at all.

Having had many burgers cooked in a cast iron pan I can tell you
is not dumb. They are excellent.

Ditto, Dave.  I nearly always use a cast iron skillet to cook
burgers.  Excellent heat conduction, great browning, able to
cook them to just your preferred doneness.  A grill works for
that, too.  I'm not sure what "new ideas" dsi1 is looking for.
It's just hamburgers.
Jill

You're wrong about cast iron being an excellent conductor of heat.
Information about the thermal conduction of metals is readily
available but my guess is that you're not into scientific tables
or science in general. Why do I even bother with yoose guys?

David, most of the talk is about heat retention and how useful it
is.

Americans don't cook with heat retention. Hawaiians, on the other
hand, certainly do.

David, mainlanders, especially from the south DEFINATELY cook with
heat
retention.  They may not think of it, but they know it, everytime
they
select a pan.

Name one dish.

Steaks, pork chops, pancakes, pineapple upside down cake.....
..

I cook those things too. Most people do. You can't cook these things
without special heat retaining pans? Yoose people are delusional. I am
the king of pineapple upside down cake, and pancakes too.

And hearing aides too, Uncle!
And yoose an expert on da hawaiians and da mainland.
Sometimes, yoose too modest Tojo.

What is it in him that threatens you so?

All of you.

Is it cooking and prep jealousy because all his dishes look like they
migrated from a food magazine spread to your screens?

Is it the unvarnished love and joy he evidences in his "rock"and its
peoples?

Do you all secretly wish you could praise your own local surrounding
with such sincerity, yet somehow you just can't too that horn and again
jealousy at his joy oozes out?

Or is it the trickster's gentle smirk you mainly get from him as the
Tojo taunt racism endlessly washes off his back with nary a blood wound
for the venom you attack him with?

Is it because despite never quoting a line of scripture he somehow
manages to live Christ's principles of tolerance and forgiveness without
lashing back at you in kind for your depredations?

There's 5 unassailable insights for you all to run away from, but the
indictments are served and in the Creator's possession, so you fume at
his not being a regular "Popeye" here and lick-spittle cursing your
sorry selves back to the demented bullying pit you've made for readers here.

Rather a sad lot you all are as you reminisce over Sheldon's antics or
Kuthe's sex life, desperately seeking the confliction that fueled your
inner fires of hatred and self-loathing for lo these many years.

Hide in your kill-files then bitches, because you are all petrified of
engaging with me because I give no quarter and you feel the sting of
righteous retribution down to the tips of your filthy trollish toes.

So here you stew, a cauldron of cretins assigned 3 full time trolls to
mock and chide you and that is a large number of assets for a near dead
medium like this.

You might all ask yourselves, who sent them here and why.

But that would take an admission of the mess you've made here, and some
move to heal the tonality and you just can't bring yourselves to trade
conflict for camaraderie, not without someone being "voted off the island".

Just a human tragedy without respite or resolution - that is what you
lot are.

Real "end times" stuff this is, like going to Gomorrah for lessons in
how to bake bread and incinerate kindness simultaneously.

Basta.

[Citizen Winston Smith]

Your simplistic ways are your downfall. Why the heck would I
hate a pan?  That's just so silly. I'm an idea person, I'm
always on the lookout for new ideas. I love new ideas.

Using a >>>>>>>>> cast iron pan to cook a burger is just plain dumb.
I don't like >>>>>>>>> that idea at all.

Having had many burgers cooked in a cast iron pan I
can tell you is not dumb. They are excellent.

Ditto, Dave.  I nearly always use a cast iron skillet to cook
burgers.  Excellent heat conduction, great browning, able to
cook them to just your preferred doneness.  A grill works for
that, too.  I'm not sure what "new ideas" dsi1 is looking

for.  >>>>>> > It's just hamburgers.

Jill

You're wrong about cast iron being an excellent conductor of

heat.  >>>>>> Information about the thermal conduction of metals is
readily >>>>>> available but my guess is that you're not into
scientific tables >>>>>> or science in general. Why do I even bother
with yoose guys?

David, most of the talk is about heat retention and how
useful it is.

Americans don't cook with heat retention. Hawaiians, on the
other hand, certainly do.

David, mainlanders, especially from the south DEFINATELY cook
with heat retention.  They may not think of it, but they know
it, everytime they select a pan.

Name one dish.

Steaks, pork chops, pancakes, pineapple upside down cake.....

Adding to the list: chicken or fish cooked in skillet.  Fried
potatoes, any number of vegetables.  Heat retention is important in
cooking no matter what culture.  Imagine cooking food in a cheap-ass
wok that can't hold the heat for a stir-fry.
Jill

I suspect the fish would really matter if cooked in some oil.  You need
the heat to get a good crispy result.
Either way, David is trying to change subject.  Dave says 'pulling a
Sheldon'.

Actually, I'm the one who said he's sounding like the new Sheldon, who
always scoffed at cast iron cookware.

Why that self-centered culinary reprobate - HOW DARE HE SCOFF AT IRON?!?!?

This is typical David: "Americans
don't cook with heat retention.  Hawaiians, on the other hand, certainly
do".

Which is more than enough to set you foaming like a hydrophobic duck!

Then posts a youtube link showing people cooking food in a huge
pit dug in the ground, as though Hawaiians cook their everyday food in
pits all the time.
Jill

OMG!

He's sold us all a false pit native narrative, off with his berloody head~!

[Citizen Winston Smith]

Absolutely but I don't know of any 'dutch ovens' that aren't made of
cast iron though someone might be passing off some paultry thing that
isn't a real dutch oven as one.  I've seen flimsy stuff of aluminium
(counter top) that are radically different.  No heat from cast iron lid
or from sides.  Those are [roperly called countertop roasting pans, in
my books.

I have a porcelain coated cast iron dutch oven with a lid which can be
used on the stovetop or in the oven.  I'd call it a dutch oven.  I also
have a speckled graniteware (enamel over steel) roasting pan with a lid.
 It could be called a dutch oven, too.  They don't all have to be made
of cast iron.  The key is heat retention and even heat distribution.
Jill

And by GOD you are the defender, curator, lord and protector of cast
iron here - so it must be by Royal Dataw decree!

[De-Trois-Leaning]

Companies don't pay taxes and tariffs ... they just pass them along to
their customers.

And yet that is NOT what the real world report on tariffs show us, and
you damned well know it!

https://prosperousamerica.org/economic-view-tariff-jumping-investment-the-success-of-the-2018-washing-machine-tariffs/

In 2013, the Obama administration imposed tariffs on imported washing
machines from South Korea. This led the Korean producers to shift
production for the U.S. market to China, which led to another
anti-dumping investigation by the U.S. International Trade Commission.
That investigation published a finding in December 2016 that Chinese
washing machines benefited from subsidies (“anti-dumping margins” in the
formal lingo) of 44.28% and recommended duties at that level. The Trump
administration, with U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer as the
driving force, decided instead to impose global duties or tariffs on all
imported large residential washing machines, whatever their source. The
duties, imposed in January 2018, started at 20% and once the quota of
1.2 million imported washers was reached, rose to 50%.

For years, the two large importers, Samsung and LG Electronics, had
opposed any import restrictions. But once those tariffs were in place,
the Korean manufacturers quickly changed their tune.

In 2018, LG Electronics completed an investment of $360 million in a new
“smart factory” in Clarksville, Tennessee. LG hired 700 employees and
began building washing machines there. In April 2021, it announced that
it had produced 1 million washing machines at Clarksville. It said it
was investing a further $20.5 million and hiring 300 more employees, to
bring its Clarksville headcount to “about 1,000.” In December 2022, LG
announced three new model washing machines capitalizing on the trend
towards energy-efficient and “smart” (i.e. Internet-enabled) appliances.
Those new models are all to be made in Clarksville.

Buck Dellinger, CEO of the Clarksville Industrial Development Board,
told us that LG Electronics is one of a number of large companies that
have chosen to build facilities in the Clarksville industrial park.
Clarksville set up the industrial park 22 years ago to build up an
industrial base to offer alternative employment in case the nearby Fort
Campbell army base reduced its presence in the area. In the last five
years, the industrial park has added 4,514 direct jobs, and a total of
7,236 including indirect jobs, Dellinger said. Indirect jobs include
suppliers to the companies in the industrial park, and service companies
serving employees such as restaurants and convenience stores. In the ten
years to 2022, Clarksville’s average salary grew 77%, as compared to the
U.S. growth rate of 62%. With 177,000 residents, Clarksville is adding
population at over 3% a year and is now Tennessee’s fifth largest city,
right behind Chattanooga.

“We’re ecstatic to have LG Electronics in the region,” said Buck
Dellinger. “Advanced manufacturing helps to give us low unemployment, a
high workforce participation rate, and a young workforce.” Dellinger
recently returned from a trip to South Korea where he met with LG
executives. “They are a very stable company, and take good care of their
employees. They have enough land here to quadruple their operation and
we hope they do.”

It’s a similar story in Newberry, South Carolina, where Samsung built an
appliance facility in 2018. In 2017, recognizing that the Trump
administration was determined to clamp down on washer imports, Samsung
announced plans to invest $350 million to build a manufacturing facility
in Newberry, South Carolina with 1,000 employees. In 2020, Samsung
invested an additional $120 million to expand the facility, which now
employs 1,200.

Newberry is a smaller, more rural and agricultural area than
Clarksville. Located 40 miles northwest of Columbia, Newberry County’s
population is just 38,000. Samsung is one of only two manufacturers in
the county with more than 1,000 employees. The other is a food
processing company. As a relatively high-tech appliance manufacturer
that designs as well as manufactures products, Samsung has had a
significant impact on business, jobs, and prosperity in Newberry County.
According to a local news report last October, the “Samsung effect” in
Newberry has contributed to investment in new housing developments, new
restaurants and other new businesses in the area. The report quoted John
Worthington, Executive Chef at local restaurant Figaro the Dining Room,
who said: “with these bigger corporations like Samsung coming in,
they’re bringing in good-paying jobs which makes the economy and the
town better.” Figaro is currently advertising for employees.

[De-Trois-Leaning]

On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:23:42 -0700, Coogan's Bluff

Well, you're the fan and you're American, hence my question.

Well you're an Asstrailerian who _claims to be_ a fan of the USA, but
all you post is hatred of us.

The USA is my favourite superpower but that's partly because the
Russian and Chinese governments are criminal organisations.

Give us a little time, will you? Russia and China have been around
longer than the U.S. Just give us four more years and I bet we'll
be right up there with Russia and China.

Try 4 more days:

https://americafirstreport.com/is-joe-biden-trying-to-start-world-war-3-before-he-leaves-office/

As if everything that Joe Biden has done so far was not enough, now he
has decided to push us to the brink of nuclear war. On Sunday, Joe
Biden decided to allow Ukraine to use long-range missiles provided by
the United States to hit targets deep inside of Russia. This is a
bombshell. I don’t know how else to put it. The Russians have already
warned us how they will respond if long-range missiles provided by the
United States and other NATO countries start raining down on their
cities. Sadly, most Americans have no idea what a direct conflict with
Russia would mean.

Everyone needs to clearly understand what just happened, because this is
a major turning point…

President Biden has given the OK to lift restrictions that will allow
Ukraine to use U.S.-provided long-range weapons to strike deep into
Russian territory, a U.S. official confirmed to CBS News on Sunday. The
move is a significant change to U.S. policy in the ongoing
Ukraine-Russia conflict.

The easing of restrictions would allow Kyiv to use the Army Tactical
Missile System, or ATACMS, to hit targets inside Russia. The move also
comes as some 10,000 North Korean troops were sent to Kursk near
Ukraine’s northern border to help Russian forces retake territory.

One of the reasons why I am so upset is because this wasn’t his decision
to make.

We just had an election and his side lost.

The American people elected a leader that wants to bring the war in
Ukraine to an end, but now Joe Biden is trying to make sure that nobody
is going to be able to end this war.

[marika]

Post by De-Trois-Leaning

On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:23:42 -0700, Coogan's Bluff

Well, you're the fan and you're American, hence my question.

Well you're an Asstrailerian who _claims to be_ a fan of the USA, but
all you post is hatred of us.

The USA is my favourite superpower but that's partly because the
Russian and Chinese governments are criminal organisations.

Give us a little time, will you? Russia and China have been around
longer than the U.S. Just give us four more years and I bet we'll
be right up there with Russia and China.

https://americafirstreport.com/is-joe-biden-trying-to-start-world-war-3-before-he-leaves-office/
As if everything that Joe Biden has done so far was not enough, now he
has decided to push us to the brink of nuclear war. On Sunday, Joe
Biden decided to allow Ukraine to use long-range missiles provided by
the United States to hit targets deep inside of Russia. This is a
bombshell. I don’t know how else to put it. The Russians have already
warned us how they will respond if long-range missiles provided by the
United States and other NATO countries start raining down on their
cities. Sadly, most Americans have no idea what a direct conflict with
Russia would mean.
Everyone needs to clearly understand what just happened, because this is
a major turning point…
President Biden has given the OK to lift restrictions that will allow
Ukraine to use U.S.-provided long-range weapons to strike deep into
Russian territory, a U.S. official confirmed to CBS News on Sunday. The
move is a significant change to U.S. policy in the ongoing
Ukraine-Russia conflict.
The easing of restrictions would allow Kyiv to use the Army Tactical
Missile System, or ATACMS, to hit targets inside Russia. The move also
comes as some 10,000 North Korean troops were sent to Kursk near
Ukraine’s northern border to help Russian forces retake territory.
One of the reasons why I am so upset is because this wasn’t his decision
to make.
We just had an election and his side lost.
The American people elected a leader that wants to bring the war in
Ukraine to an end, but now Joe Biden is trying to make sure that nobody
is going to be able to end this war.

[De-Trois-Leaning]

On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 09:44:57 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton

On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:23:42 -0700, Coogan's Bluff

Well, you're the fan and you're American, hence my question.

Well you're an Asstrailerian who _claims to be_ a fan of the USA, but
all you post is hatred of us.

The USA is my favourite superpower but that's partly because the
Russian and Chinese governments are criminal organisations.

Give us a little time, will you? Russia and China have been around
longer than the U.S. Just give us four more years and I bet we'll
be right up there with Russia and China.

Yes, the next four years will be interesting :)

https://americafirstreport.com/is-joe-biden-trying-to-start-world-war-3-before-he-leaves-office/

As if everything that Joe Biden has done so far was not enough, now he
has decided to push us to the brink of nuclear war. On Sunday, Joe
Biden decided to allow Ukraine to use long-range missiles provided by
the United States to hit targets deep inside of Russia. This is a
bombshell. I don’t know how else to put it. The Russians have already
warned us how they will respond if long-range missiles provided by the
United States and other NATO countries start raining down on their
cities. Sadly, most Americans have no idea what a direct conflict with
Russia would mean.

Everyone needs to clearly understand what just happened, because this is
a major turning point…

President Biden has given the OK to lift restrictions that will allow
Ukraine to use U.S.-provided long-range weapons to strike deep into
Russian territory, a U.S. official confirmed to CBS News on Sunday. The
move is a significant change to U.S. policy in the ongoing
Ukraine-Russia conflict.

The easing of restrictions would allow Kyiv to use the Army Tactical
Missile System, or ATACMS, to hit targets inside Russia. The move also
comes as some 10,000 North Korean troops were sent to Kursk near
Ukraine’s northern border to help Russian forces retake territory.

One of the reasons why I am so upset is because this wasn’t his decision
to make.

We just had an election and his side lost.

The American people elected a leader that wants to bring the war in
Ukraine to an end, but now Joe Biden is trying to make sure that nobody
is going to be able to end this war.

[Coogan's Bluff]

Trump's last term provided a lot of material for comedians but after 8
years of that it is no longer edgy enough to be entertaining. Now it's
just sad. The cabinet nominees are interesting, like an anti vaxxer in
charge of health. Wow..... just Wow.

Not to mention the Secretary of Defense who's never managed a large
organization, or the Attorney General who's been under investigation
for underage sex and trafficking.
And it's not just that Kennedy is anti-vax. He's not any kind
of health professional. Kuthe knows more about it.

It will all be comedy gold.

From where you sit. From here, it'll be an unending tragedy.

maybe we get yet another mis-managed pandemic which will
cause the world trillions in damages... what fools and Trump
is the chief clown of the fools.
songbird

You haven't a fucking clue about much of anything, let alone Covid's
origins and who was fronting for it long before the NWO and Davos "crown
operation" loosed it upon us.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1282186/EU-coronavirus-news-EU-fund-comic-Infected-global-pandemic-warning-latest-update

The European Commission-funded comic book “Infected” foresaw a worldwide
lockdown enforced after B1049 disease leaked out of a Chinese testing
facility that was carrying out experiments on deadly pathogens. Similar
to the coronavirus pandemic, the fictional virus was transmitted from
animals to humans before rapidly spreading across the globe through
international travel and trade links. The publication, released in 2012,
tells the story of how the EU played a leading role in the international
effort to bring the outbreak under control.

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/560276009896391421/

You finally understand Crown = Corona = WEF = Plandemic, yes?

:-0