OT Frank Sinatra

screw politics it's time for something good

SeaNymph

2016-01-28 23:24:36 UTC

Post by philo
screw politics it's time for something good
http://youtu.be/KIiUqfxFttM

What a wonderful choice. I have always liked Frank Sinatra. Many years
ago, my dad took me to Houston to see him perform live. He was fabulous!

philo

2016-01-28 23:31:18 UTC

Post by philo
screw politics it's time for something good
http://youtu.be/KIiUqfxFttM

What a wonderful choice. I have always liked Frank Sinatra. Many years
ago, my dad took me to Houston to see him perform live. He was fabulous!

Somewhere around 1990 he came to Milwaukee and I went to see him as I
thought it would be my last chance...and it was , he never sang here again

sure glad I was there!

Muggles

2016-01-28 23:47:53 UTC

Post by philo
http://youtu.be/KIiUqfxFttM

What a wonderful choice. I have always liked Frank Sinatra. Many years
ago, my dad took me to Houston to see him perform live. He was fabulous!

Somewhere around 1990 he came to Milwaukee and I went to see him as I
thought it would be my last chance...and it was , he never sang here again
sure glad I was there!

Sinatra was good when he was young, but when it got older I couldn't
stand him. I thought he lost something in his voice and people just
thought he was great because of his name. Dean Martin, I always loved,
along with Bing Crosby, Danny Kaye, and Tony Bennett.

--
Maggie

philo

2016-01-29 00:08:10 UTC

On 01/28/2016 05:47 PM, Muggles wrote:
<snip>

Post by Muggles
Sinatra was good when he was young, but when it got older I couldn't
stand him. I thought he lost something in his voice and people just
thought he was great because of his name. Dean Martin, I always loved,
along with Bing Crosby, Danny Kaye, and Tony Bennett.

When I was a kid (in the early 60's) and even before I knew his name I'd
always hear this guy on the radio with a distinctive voice, who I
eventually learned was Frank Sinatra.

By the late 60's I liked the Beatles and Rolling Stones etc and Frank
Sinatra was just an old "square" > Except for maybe Dean Martin who
really did have a great voice...I did not care at all for any of the
singers from my "father's generation".

Then in the early 80's (or so) when he came out with New York, New York
I don't know anyone who did not fall deeply in love with that song.

I think by then I was well tired of rock and roll and realized that
Frank Sinatra really was damn good. Now at the age of 66 I can really
appreciate his music.

Muggles

2016-01-29 00:19:54 UTC

Post by philo
<snip>

When I was a kid (in the early 60's) and even before I knew his name I'd
always hear this guy on the radio with a distinctive voice, who I
eventually learned was Frank Sinatra.
By the late 60's I liked the Beatles and Rolling Stones etc and Frank
Sinatra was just an old "square" > Except for maybe Dean Martin who
really did have a great voice...I did not care at all for any of the
singers from my "father's generation".
Then in the early 80's (or so) when he came out with New York, New York
I don't know anyone who did not fall deeply in love with that song.

Well, I really liked his music when he was a young man, but NY,NY just
sounded to me like he lost his gift and was trying to pretend he could
still sing. I guess I don't like that style of music, either, which
made it worse for me. I still can't listen to the man sing when his
music is played on TV. It's like fingernails on a chalk board to me.

Post by philo
I think by then I was well tired of rock and roll and realized that
Frank Sinatra really was damn good. Now at the age of 66 I can really
appreciate his music.

I guess you have to have an ear to hear him in order to appreciate it.

--
Maggie

philo

2016-01-29 00:29:09 UTC

Post by philo
<snip>

When I was a kid (in the early 60's) and even before I knew his name I'd
always hear this guy on the radio with a distinctive voice, who I
eventually learned was Frank Sinatra.
By the late 60's I liked the Beatles and Rolling Stones etc and Frank
Sinatra was just an old "square" > Except for maybe Dean Martin who
really did have a great voice...I did not care at all for any of the
singers from my "father's generation".
Then in the early 80's (or so) when he came out with New York, New York
I don't know anyone who did not fall deeply in love with that song.

Post by philo
I think by then I was well tired of rock and roll and realized that
Frank Sinatra really was damn good. Now at the age of 66 I can really
appreciate his music.

I guess you have to have an ear to hear him in order to appreciate it.

Well, FWIW, the older I get the worse my hearing has become.

My wife tells me to get my hearing tested but I already know I'm losing
it. My low range is still good, but the high frequencies are pretty much
gone.

Muggles

2016-01-29 00:42:45 UTC

Post by philo
<snip>

When I was a kid (in the early 60's) and even before I knew his name I'd
always hear this guy on the radio with a distinctive voice, who I
eventually learned was Frank Sinatra.
By the late 60's I liked the Beatles and Rolling Stones etc and Frank
Sinatra was just an old "square" > Except for maybe Dean Martin who
really did have a great voice...I did not care at all for any of the
singers from my "father's generation".
Then in the early 80's (or so) when he came out with New York, New York
I don't know anyone who did not fall deeply in love with that song.

Post by philo
I think by then I was well tired of rock and roll and realized that
Frank Sinatra really was damn good. Now at the age of 66 I can really
appreciate his music.

I guess you have to have an ear to hear him in order to appreciate it.

Well, FWIW, the older I get the worse my hearing has become.
My wife tells me to get my hearing tested but I already know I'm losing
it. My low range is still good, but the high frequencies are pretty much
gone.

I've already got a wide range hearing loss, but hearing aids help a lot.

--
Maggie

philo

2016-01-29 00:45:28 UTC

On 01/28/2016 06:42 PM, Muggles wrote:
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Post by philo
Well, FWIW, the older I get the worse my hearing has become.
My wife tells me to get my hearing tested but I already know I'm losing
it. My low range is still good, but the high frequencies are pretty much
gone.

I've already got a wide range hearing loss, but hearing aids help a lot.

I kind of like a little less auditory input

Muggles

2016-01-29 00:58:37 UTC

I've already got a wide range hearing loss, but hearing aids help a lot.

I kind of like a little less auditory input

It's like that when I take them out. lol

--
Maggie

philo

2016-01-29 01:04:09 UTC

I've already got a wide range hearing loss, but hearing aids help a lot.

I kind of like a little less auditory input

It's like that when I take them out. lol

What? ;)

Frank

2016-01-29 01:17:31 UTC

I've already got a wide range hearing loss, but hearing aids help a lot.

I kind of like a little less auditory input

It's like that when I take them out. lol

What? ;)

Guy once said that the perfect wife was deaf and dumb and owned a liquor
store.

Thomas

2016-01-29 16:31:48 UTC

Post by Frank
Guy once said that the perfect wife was deaf and dumb and owned a liquor
store.

Sinatra quote "I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning that's the best they are going to feel all day".

philo

2016-01-29 17:25:02 UTC

Post by Thomas

Post by Frank
Guy once said that the perfect wife was deaf and dumb and owned a liquor
store.

Sinatra quote "I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning that's the best they are going to feel all day".

In my drinking days I would have agreed, Now that I've quit...it is damn
nice waking up feeling totally great!

Muggles

2016-01-29 02:50:27 UTC

I've already got a wide range hearing loss, but hearing aids help a lot.

I kind of like a little less auditory input

It's like that when I take them out. lol

What? ;)

umm Can you repeat that?

--
Maggie

Uncle Monster

2016-01-29 01:29:15 UTC

I've already got a wide range hearing loss, but hearing aids help a lot.

I kind of like a little less auditory input

It's like that when I take them out. lol
--
Maggie

I recall a story about a guy who was married to a deaf gal. When they got into an argument and she didn't want to listen to him, she closed her eyes. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Loud Monster

Muggles

2016-01-29 02:53:05 UTC

Post by Uncle Monster

I've already got a wide range hearing loss, but hearing aids help a lot.

I kind of like a little less auditory input

It's like that when I take them out. lol

I recall a story about a guy who was married to a deaf gal. When they got
into an argument and she didn't want to listen to him, she closed her eyes. ^_^

I can hear more sounds than I can understand words, sometimes, so I
guess that's pretty close to not hearing anything at all.

--
Maggie

DerbyDad03

2016-01-29 12:54:53 UTC

I've already got a wide range hearing loss, but hearing aids help a lot.

I kind of like a little less auditory input

I posted in another thread about a friend who now wears a hearing aid to help
prevent total hearing loss in one ear due to that section of brain shutting down
due to "lack of use". The aid not only helps with his hearing, but also emits a small
amount of white noise to keep the brain active.

It's not just about increasing the amount that you can hear, which you don't care
about, it's also about preventing total hearing loss, which I assume you do.

philo

2016-01-29 14:03:09 UTC

Post by DerbyDad03

I've already got a wide range hearing loss, but hearing aids help a lot.

I kind of like a little less auditory input

I posted in another thread about a friend who now wears a hearing aid to help
prevent total hearing loss in one ear due to that section of brain shutting down
due to "lack of use". The aid not only helps with his hearing, but also emits a small
amount of white noise to keep the brain active.
It's not just about increasing the amount that you can hear, which you don't care
about, it's also about preventing total hearing loss, which I assume you do.

Last time I had it checked, the doctor just said it was normal for
someone of my age,

Like I said though my low range is is still very good

Oren

2016-01-29 00:08:31 UTC

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 17:24:36 -0600, SeaNymph

Post by SeaNymph
What a wonderful choice. I have always liked Frank Sinatra. Many years
ago, my dad took me to Houston to see him perform live. He was fabulous!

Wonderful. Alleged Mafia connections, photo with Lucky Luciano in
Cuba, Las Vegas mob loved him. Just the guy to let your kids see.

philo

2016-01-29 00:16:53 UTC

Post by Oren
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 17:24:36 -0600, SeaNymph

Post by SeaNymph
What a wonderful choice. I have always liked Frank Sinatra. Many years
ago, my dad took me to Houston to see him perform live. He was fabulous!

Wonderful. Alleged Mafia connections, photo with Lucky Luciano in
Cuba, Las Vegas mob loved him. Just the guy to let your kids see.

Note: You said "alleged" Mafia connections.

It is known that he did hang around with Mafia people and was a very
cocky SOB to anyone he did not like.

That has ZERO to do with his singing ability however.

ChairMan

2016-01-29 01:40:22 UTC

Post by Oren
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 17:24:36 -0600, SeaNymph

Post by SeaNymph
What a wonderful choice. I have always liked Frank
Sinatra. Many
years ago, my dad took me to Houston to see him perform
live. He
was fabulous!

Wonderful. Alleged Mafia connections, photo with Lucky
Luciano in
Cuba, Las Vegas mob loved him. Just the guy to let your
kids see.

Note: You said "alleged" Mafia connections.
It is known that he did hang around with Mafia people and
was a very
cocky SOB to anyone he did not like.
That has ZERO to do with his singing ability however.

As does you crossposting this into scorched -earth
Makes you look like a troll

Frank

2016-01-29 00:18:33 UTC

Post by Oren
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 17:24:36 -0600, SeaNymph

Post by SeaNymph
What a wonderful choice. I have always liked Frank Sinatra. Many years
ago, my dad took me to Houston to see him perform live. He was fabulous!

Wonderful. Alleged Mafia connections, photo with Lucky Luciano in
Cuba, Las Vegas mob loved him. Just the guy to let your kids see.

Alleged Mafia connections were apparently the club owners where he
appeared. People love to weave stories about the Mafia but most of us
of Italian descent know little more about them than the general public.
I did not hear any stories about them until I went to grad school in
Cleveland when a barber was telling me how they had to buy supplies off
them.

I like Sinatra more now than when I was young. My mother loved him but
he was too old for me to like then. Now that I'm old, I like him more.

philo

2016-01-29 00:31:49 UTC

Post by Frank
Alleged Mafia connections were apparently the club owners where he
appeared. People love to weave stories about the Mafia but most of us
of Italian descent know little more about them than the general public.
I did not hear any stories about them until I went to grad school in
Cleveland when a barber was telling me how they had to buy supplies off
them.
I like Sinatra more now than when I was young. My mother loved him but
he was too old for me to like then. Now that I'm old, I like him more.

Nothing was ever proven other than some of the people he hung around
with were in the mob.

I think it's interesting to have a wide range of friends and the people
I hang around with range from bums to doctors etc.

Frank

2016-01-29 01:15:31 UTC

Nothing was ever proven other than some of the people he hung around
with were in the mob.
I think it's interesting to have a wide range of friends and the people
I hang around with range from bums to doctors etc.

I guess I do too although none are known criminals to me.

I have a rich, Italian classmate from Sicily. He's a lawyer and
business man. He wrote a letter to the editor once saying that he
belonged to the Mid-Atlantic Federation of Italian Attorneys.
As I recall he wrote it when accused of being a city slumlord. It was a
riot.

philo

2016-01-29 01:20:05 UTC

Post by Frank

Post by philo
Nothing was ever proven other than some of the people he hung around
with were in the mob.
I think it's interesting to have a wide range of friends and the people
I hang around with range from bums to doctors etc.

I guess I do too although none are known criminals to me.
I have a rich, Italian classmate from Sicily. He's a lawyer and
business man. He wrote a letter to the editor once saying that he
belonged to the Mid-Atlantic Federation of Italian Attorneys.
As I recall he wrote it when accused of being a city slumlord. It was a
riot.

I don't know any really bad criminals or anything like that but I do
know plenty of low-lifes. As I get older though I tend more to hang
around with professionals though

Frank

2016-01-29 01:44:11 UTC

Post by Frank

I guess I do too although none are known criminals to me.
I have a rich, Italian classmate from Sicily. He's a lawyer and
business man. He wrote a letter to the editor once saying that he
belonged to the Mid-Atlantic Federation of Italian Attorneys.
As I recall he wrote it when accused of being a city slumlord. It was a
riot.

I don't know any really bad criminals or anything like that but I do
know plenty of low-lifes. As I get older though I tend more to hang
around with professionals though

I'd say, me too, again to that one. I try to avoid low-lifers and know
people that have been in prison but don't hang with them. I know a lot
of lawyers and two of my sons are lawyers. Most of the people I worked
with were PhD chemists or engineers and many are still friends.

Reminds me, my thesis adviser spent 20 years in federal prison for drug
crimes. Probably been 45 years since I last saw him. He was Jewish.

Stormin Mormon

2016-01-29 02:18:26 UTC

Post by philo
screw politics it's time for something good
http://youtu.be/KIiUqfxFttM

I don't hate the bastard, but I'm thinking
of filtering Philo for being off topic.

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Roger Blake

2016-01-29 18:59:37 UTC

Post by philo
screw politics it's time for something good
http://youtu.be/KIiUqfxFttM

I don't want to start a war here, but as far as I'm concerned
Dean has (had) a much better singing voice than Frank ever did.

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SeaNymph

2016-01-29 20:01:54 UTC

Post by philo
screw politics it's time for something good
http://youtu.be/KIiUqfxFttM

I don't want to start a war here, but as far as I'm concerned
Dean has (had) a much better singing voice than Frank ever did.
http://youtu.be/mv9PSkNkUfs

A lot of people think that. For me, I just didn't like Dean Martin.
I'm not even sure why.

burfordTjustice

2016-01-29 20:13:10 UTC

On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 14:01:54 -0600

Post by philo
screw politics it's time for something good
http://youtu.be/KIiUqfxFttM

I don't want to start a war here, but as far as I'm concerned
Dean has (had) a much better singing voice than Frank ever did.
http://youtu.be/mv9PSkNkUfs

A lot of people think that. For me, I just didn't like Dean Martin.
I'm not even sure why.

You need mo Italian blood!

philo

2016-01-29 21:13:41 UTC

Post by philo
screw politics it's time for something good
http://youtu.be/KIiUqfxFttM

I don't want to start a war here, but as far as I'm concerned
Dean has (had) a much better singing voice than Frank ever did.
http://youtu.be/mv9PSkNkUfs

A lot of people think that. For me, I just didn't like Dean Martin.
I'm not even sure why.

Possibly because he first played a drunk, then became one

burfordTjustice

2016-01-30 13:26:10 UTC

On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 15:13:41 -0600

Post by philo
screw politics it's time for something good
http://youtu.be/KIiUqfxFttM

I don't want to start a war here, but as far as I'm concerned
Dean has (had) a much better singing voice than Frank ever did.
http://youtu.be/mv9PSkNkUfs

A lot of people think that. For me, I just didn't like Dean Martin.
I'm not even sure why.

Possibly because he first played a drunk, then became one

You just can't help yourself can you?

From the lefty Bible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Martin
In 1965, Martin launched his weekly NBC comedy-variety series, The Dean Martin Show, which ran for 264 episodes until 1974. The show exploited his image as a carefree boozer. Martin capitalized on his laid-back persona of the half-drunk crooner, hitting on women with remarks that would get anyone else slapped, and making snappy if slurred remarks about fellow celebrities during his roasts. During an interview on the British TV documentary Wine, Women and Song, aired in 1983, he stated, perhaps tongue-in-cheek, that he had someone record them on cassette tape so he could listen to them.

His TV show was a success. The show's loose format featured quick-witted improvisation from Martin and his weekly guests. This prompted a battle between Martin and NBC censors, who insisted on more scrutiny of the content. The show was often in the Top Ten. Martin, appreciative of the show's producer, his friend Greg Garrison, made a handshake deal giving Garrison, a pioneer TV producer in the 1950s, 50% of the show. However, the validity of that ownership is the subject of a lawsuit brought by NBCUniversal.

Despite Martin's reputation as a drinker – perpetuated via his vanity license plate "DRUNKY" – he masked his self-discipline.[10] He was often the first to call it a night, and when not on tour or on a film location, liked to go home to see his wife and children. He borrowed the lovable-drunk shtick from Joe E. Lewis, but his convincing portrayals of heavy boozers in Some Came Running and Howard Hawks's Rio Bravo led to unsubstantiated claims of alcoholism.

Tekkie®

2016-01-29 22:07:43 UTC

SeaNymph posted for all of us...

Post by philo
screw politics it's time for something good
http://youtu.be/KIiUqfxFttM

I don't want to start a war here, but as far as I'm concerned
Dean has (had) a much better singing voice than Frank ever did.
http://youtu.be/mv9PSkNkUfs

A lot of people think that. For me, I just didn't like Dean Martin.
I'm not even sure why.

When the moons in your eye like a big pizza pie~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

--
Tekkie

philo

2016-01-30 03:20:28 UTC

Post by TekkieÂ®
SeaNymph posted for all of us...

Post by philo
screw politics it's time for something good
http://youtu.be/KIiUqfxFttM

I don't want to start a war here, but as far as I'm concerned
Dean has (had) a much better singing voice than Frank ever did.
http://youtu.be/mv9PSkNkUfs

A lot of people think that. For me, I just didn't like Dean Martin.
I'm not even sure why.

When the moons in your eye like a big pizza pie~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

A well liked song but pure schlock

Eagle

2016-02-05 14:57:17 UTC

Post by TekkieÂ®
SeaNymph posted for all of us...

Post by philo
screw politics it's time for something good
http://youtu.be/KIiUqfxFttM

I don't want to start a war here, but as far as I'm concerned
Dean has (had) a much better singing voice than Frank ever did.
http://youtu.be/mv9PSkNkUfs

A lot of people think that. For me, I just didn't like Dean Martin.
I'm not even sure why.

When the moons in your eye like a big pizza pie~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

A well liked song but pure schlock

His TV show was very popular. Being a well known drunk shadowed his
fame.

Muggles

2016-01-29 21:12:10 UTC

Post by philo
screw politics it's time for something good
http://youtu.be/KIiUqfxFttM

I don't want to start a war here, but as far as I'm concerned
Dean has (had) a much better singing voice than Frank ever did.
http://youtu.be/mv9PSkNkUfs

I agree.

--
Maggie

philo

2016-01-29 21:13:12 UTC

Post by philo
screw politics it's time for something good
http://youtu.be/KIiUqfxFttM

I don't want to start a war here, but as far as I'm concerned
Dean has (had) a much better singing voice than Frank ever did.
http://youtu.be/mv9PSkNkUfs

Not going to start a war as I always thought the same.

Re-listening to Sinatra though... I now like him better because he had a
real edge to him.

As to his personality, he was warm to his friends and quite generous.

As I get older though I think I just like him for his dark side.

Oren

2016-01-29 21:57:45 UTC

Post by philo
As to his personality, he was warm to his friends and quite generous.

_Dennis Miller tells about dinner with Frank Sinatra _

SeaNymph

2016-01-29 22:28:35 UTC

Post by Oren

Post by philo
As to his personality, he was warm to his friends and quite generous.

_Dennis Miller tells about dinner with Frank Sinatra _
http://youtu.be/tQyJlKI26lk

That was so interesting, not to mention funny :)

philo

2016-01-29 23:12:59 UTC

Post by Oren

Post by philo
As to his personality, he was warm to his friends and quite generous.

_Dennis Miller tells about dinner with Frank Sinatra _
http://youtu.be/tQyJlKI26lk

Thank you

and I kept it going for the 2nd story which I had heard before.

After that incident where he forgot the words, he used a teleprompter.

I did see him /after/ that and he still performed like a champ

and it did not appear like he was using the prompter at all...

I think it was more of a safety net

Ed Pawlowski

2016-01-30 01:15:33 UTC

Post by philo
Re-listening to Sinatra though... I now like him better because he had a
real edge to him.
As to his personality, he was warm to his friends and quite generous.
As I get older though I think I just like him for his dark side.

May have been good for friends, but he has the reputation for being a
jerk to others. Don't know how true it is.

philo

2016-01-30 03:32:43 UTC

Post by Ed Pawlowski

May have been good for friends, but he has the reputation for being a
jerk to others. Don't know how true it is.

I just completed the 2nd half of an 1800 (total pages) biography by
James Kaplan

http://www.amazon.com/Frank-The-Voice-James-Kaplan/dp/0767924231
http://www.amazon.com/Sinatra-The-Chairman-James-Kaplan/dp/0385535392

Very comprehensive and after you read both those books you will know it all

Eagle

2016-02-05 14:55:09 UTC

Post by philo
screw politics it's time for something good
http://youtu.be/KIiUqfxFttM

I don't want to start a war here, but as far as I'm concerned
Dean has (had) a much better singing voice than Frank ever did.
http://youtu.be/mv9PSkNkUfs

Not going to start a war as I always thought the same.
Re-listening to Sinatra though... I now like him better because he had a real
edge to him.
As to his personality, he was warm to his friends and quite generous.
As I get older though I think I just like him for his dark side.

I did some work on his home in Palm Springs back in 1972. He was a fun
customer and had Me do more custom work to his spa area.

burfordTjustice

2016-02-05 15:21:55 UTC

On Fri, 05 Feb 2016 06:55:09 -0800

Post by Eagle

Post by philo
screw politics it's time for something good
http://youtu.be/KIiUqfxFttM

I don't want to start a war here, but as far as I'm concerned
Dean has (had) a much better singing voice than Frank ever did.
http://youtu.be/mv9PSkNkUfs

Not going to start a war as I always thought the same.
Re-listening to Sinatra though... I now like him better because he
had a real edge to him.
As to his personality, he was warm to his friends and quite
generous.
As I get older though I think I just like him for his dark side.

I did some work on his home in Palm Springs back in 1972. He was a
fun customer and had Me do more custom work to his spa area.

Oh heartbreak, who knew Frank was queer.

philo

2016-02-10 20:49:06 UTC